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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 7

    emptywheel Retweeted Jennifer Jacobs

    Again, this seems to be JUST about avoiding the second trial. I would guess Mueller would look for ConFraudUs and a juicy FARA plea, but Manafort has been resisting admitting to "acting" under FARA.https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1038182081837322240 …

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    Jennifer JacobsVerified account @JenniferJJacobs
    SCOOP: Manafort and Mueller prosecutors are negotiating over which charges Manafort might admit to, and the length of the sentence to be recommended by prosecutors, @davidvoreacos and @NeilAWeinberg report.
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      2. J_Blackwood‏ @Horace_Badun Sep 7
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Shouldn’t Manafort have negotiated this BEFORE being already convicted on a host of charges?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 7
        Replying to @Horace_Badun

        If part of his job, in pursuing a Trump pardon, is to learn everything he can from discovery, he had to go to trial to learn what Gates gave Mueller.

        1 reply 6 retweets 12 likes
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      2. Harrison Kaiser‏ @harri_kai Sep 7
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Hard to believe that Mueller would strike a non-cooperation agreement with Manafort...

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 7
        Replying to @harri_kai

        It is in both sides interest to avoid the expense and time commitment of a second trial. Both are actually focused on the case in chief.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Lemon Slayer‏ @LemonSlayerUS Sep 7
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I understand the issue of avoiding the cost & effort in a 2nd mostly duplicative trial, but you don't see Mueller holding out for a cooperation agreement as part of a Manafort plea? If so, curious as to why not.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 7
        Replying to @LemonSlayerUS

        I think they realize they're not going to get it and suspect they've got what they need via Gates and other entities.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. Lemon Slayer‏ @LemonSlayerUS Sep 7
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Which then tends to reinforce the Manafort expectation of receiving, at the very least, a Trump commutation. Then there is the forfeiture issue that surely Manafort wants desperately to avoid. Wonder if Mueller is willing to let the confiscation slide as part of the plea.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Lemon Slayer‏ @LemonSlayerUS Sep 7
        Replying to @LemonSlayerUS @emptywheel

        Speaking of the forfeiture issue, I keep forgetting that Trump can also make that go away.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2. KeyserSozeBro‏ @KeyserSozeBro1 Sep 7
        Replying to @emptywheel

        This is abhorrent. There must be hundreds of lobbyists not FARA registered who should be for it to be lawful. Go for the King Scumbag & best not miss...take Manafort to trial & make the case. Scare the other swamp creatures stiff.

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 7
        Replying to @KeyserSozeBro1

        What incentive to Mueller is there to do that?

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      4. KeyserSozeBro‏ @KeyserSozeBro1 Sep 7
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Mueller’s interest is the sunken costs & credibility to have brought a full case against Manafort. So do it. Go to trial. I’m not suggesting he start a FARA hunt, trap & kill practice on the taxpayer dime. That’s what district AUSAs can (& should do).

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      1. Sajizzle‏ @Sajizzle Sep 7
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Is this a flip

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      1. yvette swegheimer(authentic acct)‏ @leesgirl9 Sep 7
        Replying to @emptywheel

        i agree to me this is another way of manafort telling 45 give me a pardon

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      1. John Lieske‏ @johnlieske Sep 7
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Yeah haven't they been doing this for weeks now?

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