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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 7

      emptywheel Retweeted kelly cohen

      What the hell kind of reporter asks if action should be taken against NYT for publishing an op-ed??https://twitter.com/politiCOHEN_/status/1038115084646723585 …

      emptywheel added,

      kelly cohenVerified account @politiCOHEN_
      god bless @jdawsey1 for transcribing this POTUS gaggle 🏆 pic.twitter.com/CfT45BQvbf
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      64 replies 203 retweets 984 likes
    2. Julie Davis‏Verified account @juliehdavis Sep 7
      Replying to @emptywheel

      A kind of reporter who wanted to know the actual answer to an important question Trump raised himself last night when he said in front of thousands of people that publishing the op-ed might have been treason. That's what kind.

      25 replies 41 retweets 294 likes
    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 7
      Replying to @juliehdavis

      Also the kind of reporter who treats absolutely unreasonable claims as reasonable then? Gotcha. Thanks.

      5 replies 3 retweets 88 likes
    4. Julie Davis‏Verified account @juliehdavis Sep 7
      Replying to @emptywheel

      So no follow-ups are appropriate when the president of the United States makes an unreasonable claim? Ok, I think I get the rules now.

      28 replies 33 retweets 294 likes
    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 7
      Replying to @juliehdavis

      Perhaps when doing "follow-ups," don't accept an outlandishly false claim as true. Instead, start by calling out the false claim, and then make him defend it? It might end up in less gas-lighting from BOTH the President and the press.

      4 replies 12 retweets 116 likes
    6. Julie Davis‏Verified account @juliehdavis Sep 7
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Maybe, & I wasn't there, so dunno exactly how this was worded, but if a person in power suggests that a certain action be taken, however far-fetched or false the premise, I think it's the obligation of reporters w access to that person to ask whether he's going to act accordingly

      5 replies 3 retweets 23 likes
    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 7
      Replying to @juliehdavis

      OK. We disagree. When a person in power makes a claim that is both false and outside the realm of law, what journalists should NOT do is accept that premise as true. Doing so only makes the reporter a party to the original lie.

      6 replies 11 retweets 96 likes
    8. Julie Davis‏Verified account @juliehdavis Sep 7
      Replying to @emptywheel

      I think we do disagree. If a president makes a threat, or says things that suggest he is ready to take actions outside the law, reporters need to determine whether he intends to do so. Can also challenge his premise. But failing to do the 1st is not doing the job.

      8 replies 4 retweets 19 likes
    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 7
      Replying to @juliehdavis

      Well, let's look at what happened. Everyone reported this 1) as if he came up with the idea of prosecuting it (he didn't) 2) as if it was reasonable. There's a reason Trump gets away with telling lies. Apparently part of the problem is no one is ever questioning his premise.

      3 replies 8 retweets 83 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 7
      Replying to @emptywheel @juliehdavis

      Add into the fact his known behavior: he says something outlandish. Sycophants don't challenge it. So he acts on that outlandish behavior, and is given ... more press for it. Rinse and repeat. No wonder his threats are getting worse. He's being rewarded for it.

      12:05 PM - 7 Sep 2018
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        2. [REDACTED]™‏ @quasirealSmiths Sep 7
          Replying to @emptywheel @juliehdavis

          careful marcy, don't want to cross a "red line"

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 7
          Replying to @quasirealSmiths @juliehdavis

          Oh, I cross red lines all the time. It's why I'm not in the WH press corps.

          1 reply 0 retweets 17 likes
        4. [REDACTED]™‏ @quasirealSmiths Sep 7
          Replying to @emptywheel @juliehdavis

          and you do it without the press interviewing you at a golf club having to suggest what a "red line" could be!

          0 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
        5. End of conversation
        1. Jonathan Angelo‏ @JAngello85 Sep 7
          Replying to @emptywheel @juliehdavis

          I beginning to think this Trump-hates-media -hates-Trump is just canard to troll the rest of the country. Media made this guy who he is and what he is, and now the media keeps milking him over while the rest of the country gets fucked over .

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        1. OneDay‏ @onedaylight Sep 7
          Replying to @emptywheel @juliehdavis

          I agree with emptywheel here. It’s basic due diligence. One, it’s proven Trump has no regard for the law or the truth. Two, knowing this it seems to even the most pedestrian of news watchers you are only ratcheting up the stakes. And your hurting us in the process.

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        1. Weltgeist is a bitch‏ @Sociopathblog Sep 7
          Replying to @emptywheel @juliehdavis

          Weltgeist is a bitch Retweeted Jeff Mason

          Interested in the truth? You might to have questions asked as the one you critiisied. Moreover: listen to the answer:https://twitter.com/jeffmason1/status/1038100308323434497 …

          Weltgeist is a bitch added,

          Jeff MasonVerified account @jeffmason1
          Trump tells reporters on Air Force One he is looking into taking action against the @nytimes. “We’re going to see. I’m looking at that right now,” he says, per @steveholland1
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