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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 7

    emptywheel Retweeted US Attorney SDNY

    We don't have an extradition treaty with Georgia, do we? So Georgia is just handing over hackers to the US now?https://twitter.com/SDNYnews/status/1038131210348900352 …

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    US Attorney SDNYVerified account @SDNYnews
    Manhattan US Attorney announces extradition of alleged Russian hacker responsible for massive network intrusions at US financial institutions, US brokerage firms, a major news publication, and other companies https://go.usa.gov/xPaBh 
    11:30 AM - 7 Sep 2018
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    20 replies 52 retweets 119 likes
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      2. codelancer‏ @codelancer Sep 7
        Replying to @emptywheel

        as Maldives in Seleznev case

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 7
        Replying to @codelancer

        Yup. But which will piss Russia off more, Maldives cooperating w/o a treaty or Georgia?

        2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
      4. codelancer‏ @codelancer Sep 7
        Replying to @emptywheel

        well, I see "Joshua Samuel Aaron" in the indictment. He was arrested in Moscow by russian police and extradited to the US. Do you remember that story? Seems Russia simply doesn't care about this case and people from this group.

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      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 7
        Replying to @codelancer

        I do.

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      6. codelancer‏ @codelancer Sep 7
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I don't see any problem with extradition from Georgia (if you aren't georgian citizen), see Article 30 https://matsne.gov.ge/ru/document/download/112594/3/en/pdf …

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      7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 7
        Replying to @codelancer

        Thanks.

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      2. FCB‏ @feline_cannon Sep 7
        Replying to @emptywheel

        He’s not of Georgian nationality. That removes at least one hurdle. https://rm.coe.int/CoERMPublicCommonSearchServices/DisplayDCTMContent?documentId=09000016803ab7fa …

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 7
        Replying to @feline_cannon

        Sure but he's Russian. Which is going to piss off Putin even more.

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      4. No Foul Play Whatsoever‏ @BikSlyce Sep 7
        Replying to @emptywheel @feline_cannon

        Watch out for US military sales to Georgia announced at some point in the next 3 months... Total speculation, but there's got to be some kind of similar deal in the works.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Jim Guiliani‏ @chatchaat Sep 7
        Replying to @emptywheel

        He committed a crime here. I don't see the problem in prosecuting him for it.

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 7
        Replying to @chatchaat

        Not my issue. I'm trying to understand how we managed an unusual extradition.

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      4. Jim Guiliani‏ @chatchaat Sep 7
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Ok.

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      1. Ben Simpson‏ @simp_ben Sep 7
        Replying to @emptywheel

        lusting after that sweet NATO umbrella

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      1. Themistocles' Wall‏ @themistocles_w Sep 7
        Replying to @emptywheel

        If you’re a tiny FSU on the Black Sea w/@PutinRF frozen zones, this is a gutsy play Let’s hope donny ‘s @GOP doesn’t fukk em over before Jan ‘19

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      1. uɐpʇou@ ✸‏ @notdan Sep 7
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Depends, did he mess with anything Georgia owns?

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      2. davisadele  ✒️‏ @sadele2 Sep 7
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Just skimmed this, Georgi'a laws, dated 2010'13 on int'l legal coopertion. Seems to require treaty if citizen is from GA. If foreigner, cooperation depends - threat to GA, seriousness of crime, etc https://matsne.gov.ge/ru/document/download/112594/3/en/pdf …

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      3. davisadele  ✒️‏ @sadele2 Sep 7
        Replying to @sadele2 @emptywheel

        *dated 2010 - 2013. No idea if changed since then

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      1. Rule of Law‏ @BaconJoel Sep 7
        Replying to @emptywheel @runPattirun

        Very nice Gesture on Georgias part👍🇺🇸 Thank you !pic.twitter.com/sw8Yd2X16g

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      1. Brumel‏ @Brumel8 Sep 7
        Replying to @emptywheel

        No treaty required for extradition. The US government may just have invoked Georgian domestic law. Many countries’ codes provide for extradition in such cases. The Tyurin case shows why: you want to get rid of some people.

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      1. Robert Posey‏ @regretblues Sep 7
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Interesting 10 yr anniversary: “On 8 September, Sarkozy and Medvedev signed another agreement on a Russian pullback from Georgia.”

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