If this report is correct, there is more concrete evidence that Trump obstructed justice: Trump knew Flynn had lied to FBI and committed a felony, and thus asked Comey to let Flynn go, and then fired Comey: @https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/08/29/the-flynn-tapes-a-new-tell/
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Marcy, I trust your work & I think it's probably true that Trump directed the calls AND that he found out Flynn was caught red-handed. But I tend to be focused on what prosecutors can prove now. If they now have proof of obstruction, I think that's a big deal on its own. Right?
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No. They have proof of conspiracy. The obstruction only 1) got Mueller to the point where he got proof of conspiracy 2) gives Rudy means to FUD 3) is likely harder to prove at this point, and more legally fraught.
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OK, got it. And I'll add a 4th: No amount of obstruction is going to get the GOP base or Senators to support removal. Only hard evidence of conspiracy will make a real difference politically. So if Waas's story is an obstruction-distraction cover for the conspiracy, I agree w/you
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Yes. All the more so if people are spreading stories about obstruction that cover up the evidence of conspiracy.
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That's a major factual turning point in itself: the Trump White House personnel are so worried about Russian conspiracy evidence (and their own crim exposure) that they are conceding rampant obstruction.
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I'd agree if I believed Trump had any competent lawyers.
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Just an observation: Trump telling Flynn to contact Russia, by itself, is just a Logan Act problem, which is weaker than an obstruction problem. So Mueller would need to have more damning content of Trump’s order or other conspiratorial conduct. Right?
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Unclear. There's reason to believe Yates had more of a concern than that. And don't forget that by stalling on firing Flynn (another thing this stupid narrative covers for), you get him in the phone call w/Putin.
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