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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Upgrayedd‏ @jayacoop Aug 28
      Replying to @ConservativeV11 @emptywheel

      WOW. You're going with that? How many different versions of the Trump Tower meeting did Jr. give? How many versions of contact w/ Guccifer and Wikileaks did Stone give? Trump told YOU he didn't know anything about the payments, then he told YOU he did. So you like "known liars?"

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    2. Conservative Voyce‏ @ConservativeV11 Aug 28
      Replying to @jayacoop @emptywheel

      Accusations are not crimes...

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    3. Upgrayedd‏ @jayacoop Aug 28
      Replying to @ConservativeV11 @emptywheel

      That's your Hillary standard, I take it? Don't say yes, or you'll have to eat your own words.

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    4. Conservative Voyce‏ @ConservativeV11 Aug 28
      Replying to @jayacoop @emptywheel

      Absolutely. let's investigate Hillary 1/2 as vigorously as we do Trump and see where it goes.

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    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 28
      Replying to @ConservativeV11 @jayacoop

      Would you support investigating Kushner for the same crime, only that hasn't even been reviewed?

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. Conservative Voyce‏ @ConservativeV11 Aug 28
      Replying to @emptywheel @jayacoop

      Sure. If there is unbiased, real evidence to support it. I wish to see all crime prosecuted. Which is my answer to the original question. If Trump committed a crime, he should be accountable. Why Dems feel the same way?

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    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 28
      Replying to @ConservativeV11 @jayacoop

      There are three witnesses and a tape that Trump himself released. One of the witnesses still works for Trump. The other is a lifelong friend.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    8. Conservative Voyce‏ @ConservativeV11 Aug 28
      Replying to @emptywheel @jayacoop

      Convicted! We don't need a trial, or investigation, or anything. Send him to jail. Mike Pence will do a great job of furthering the agenda That helps Americans! Brilliant

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 28
      Replying to @ConservativeV11 @jayacoop

      Again, there is FAR more evidence that Trump committed multiple felonies than that these immigrants committed a misdemeanor. If you support due process then you have to oppose Trump's kidnapping scheme.

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    10. Conservative Voyce‏ @ConservativeV11 Aug 28
      Replying to @emptywheel @jayacoop

      These criminal aliens were caught in the act of breaking Federal immigration law. What more evidence do you need?

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 28
      Replying to @ConservativeV11 @jayacoop

      Again, many of them are NOT criminals. They are asylum seekers. As I keep saying, there are not 3 long-term associates testifying against them, with video. Far less evidence (and for a misdemeanor) than against Trump, for felonies. Stop coddling Trump.

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        2. Conservative Voyce‏ @ConservativeV11 Aug 28
          Replying to @emptywheel @jayacoop

          Again. There's a process for seeking Asylum. True asylum-seekers are not having their children ripped away from them. However you cannot cross the border illegally, get caught, then claim Asylum. That is dumb.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 28
          Replying to @ConservativeV11 @jayacoop

          Yes. And Trump is seizing THOSE people. You HAVE to support kidnapping Barron or admit you're a rank hypocrite coddling Trump.

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        4. Conservative Voyce‏ @ConservativeV11 Aug 28
          Replying to @emptywheel @jayacoop

          Again. Your argument is dumb. If you broke the law while illegally in Mexico, what do you think would happen to your children? Would they get to go to jail with you? You never answered my question. What is your solution?

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 28
          Replying to @ConservativeV11 @jayacoop

          If I committed a misdemeanor I'd be sent back to the US w/my kids. If I committed multiple felonies like Trump? Hard to say.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 28
          Replying to @emptywheel @ConservativeV11 @jayacoop

          How about this solution? We START by applying your version of justice to Trump: no evidence, immediate seizure of children and assets. Then -- we can hang out and continue this discussion.

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        2. Conservative Voyce‏ @ConservativeV11 Aug 29
          Replying to @emptywheel @jayacoop

          "For those seeking asylum at ports of entry, we have continued the policy from previous Administrations and will only separate if the child is in danger, there is no custodial relationship between 'family' members, or if the adult has broken a law." (Kirstjen Nielsen).

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        3. Upgrayedd‏ @jayacoop Aug 29
          Replying to @ConservativeV11 @emptywheel

          Some day you’ll realize that what they say and what they do are different things. Quoting official statements while ignoring what actually happens is meaningless.

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        4. Conservative Voyce‏ @ConservativeV11 Aug 29
          Replying to @jayacoop @emptywheel

          have you seen legal asylum seekers Have their children taken away? If you have, where can i find that, because i have not seen that. Every illegal alien that gets caught is claiming asylum. Those do not count, except on CNN and MSNBC

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        5. Upgrayedd‏ @jayacoop Aug 29
          Replying to @ConservativeV11 @emptywheel

          Read the court cases. Read the judicial opinions ruling against the administration on this. Learn something.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Conservative Voyce‏ @ConservativeV11 Aug 29
          Replying to @jayacoop @emptywheel

          Send me a link to them. I will be happy to read them.

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        7. Upgrayedd‏ @jayacoop Aug 29
          Replying to @ConservativeV11 @emptywheel

          There are many. I'm not going to do your research for you. Here's one to get you started. You can follow the filings in the case. The gov't did EXACTLY what you are claiming they don't do.https://www.aclu.org/legal-document/ms-l-v-ice-complaint …

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        8. Conservative Voyce‏ @ConservativeV11 Aug 29
          Replying to @jayacoop @emptywheel

          That's a sad case. I can't defend that. I'm happy they were reunited. I hope that trumps executive order will help stop that from happening in the future.

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        9. Upgrayedd‏ @jayacoop Aug 29
          Replying to @ConservativeV11 @emptywheel

          You are aware, I hope, that the executive order (which they aren’t following) was enacted to change the very policy implemented by Trump that caused this.

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