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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 27

      emptywheel Retweeted 𝙻𝚎𝚎 𝚂𝚝𝚛𝚊𝚗𝚊𝚑𝚊𝚗

      I'm the world's biggest Steele skeptic. But I'm a bigger skeptic of what Roger Stone's associates would be *discovering* at this stage of investigation.https://twitter.com/stranahan/status/1034133688576094209 …

      emptywheel added,

      0:54
      𝙻𝚎𝚎 𝚂𝚝𝚛𝚊𝚗𝚊𝚑𝚊𝚗Verified account @stranahan
      BREAKING: Steele Dossier correspondent told to FAKE info. Here's small bit of my interview with @TelizhenkoAndr. This changes EVERYTHING and this info needs to get to @POTUS. Listen to the whole interview here > https://twitter.com/stranahan/status/1034038124438069248 … Spread the word. pic.twitter.com/t0SfVImwXn
      30 replies 22 retweets 174 likes
    2. Casper Macer‏ @caspermacer Aug 27
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Why are you a skeptic? Nothing in the dossier has been disproven, much of it has been confirmed, and Steele himself is about as unimpeachable a source as there is...

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 27
      Replying to @caspermacer

      What has been confirmed?

      3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    4. Casper Macer‏ @caspermacer Aug 27
      Replying to @emptywheel

      https://www.newsweek.com/trump-russia-dossier-true-proven-929839 …

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 27
      Replying to @caspermacer

      Wow. That's a particularly bad inventory both of what the dossier (rather than claims made afterwards about it) actually said, and all the shit that proved to be wrong. Try these: https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/08/13/the-dossier-as-disinformation-why-it-would-matter/ … https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/12/10/three-months-after-problematic-john-sipher-post-just-security-makes-clear-it-let-clear-errors-sit-for-two/ …

      2:55 PM - 27 Aug 2018
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        2. maltese mama‏ @tz1969 Aug 27
          Replying to @emptywheel @caspermacer

          what are your thoughts on this analysis, almost a year old now:https://www.justsecurity.org/44697/steele-dossier-knowing/ …

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 27
          Replying to @tz1969 @caspermacer

          Thanks for proving you didn't click thru to the links I posted.

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        4. maltese mama‏ @tz1969 Aug 27
          Replying to @emptywheel @caspermacer

          i am not disagreeing or questioning your analysis, merely asking you to comment on sipher's.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 27
          Replying to @tz1969 @caspermacer

          You did not read those links. You could not have.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        6. Mephisto‏ @_georgekaplan Aug 27
          Replying to @emptywheel @tz1969 @caspermacer

          I think you have to admit for raw intel it has so far been accurate in describing a relationship that dates *actively back to 2013 and evolved into a campaign to elect him president through hacking and disinfo. (Not to mention the whole decades of money laundering for Rus mob)

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Mephisto‏ @_georgekaplan Aug 27
          Replying to @_georgekaplan @emptywheel and

          I see u do address it in ur articles. It is most probable the dossier contained significant&pernicious disinfo...but also true that the most salacious allegations are sop for kompromat on pliable ppl. The inferences suggest there’s lurid stories out there, &in truth they’re worse

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        2. Casper Macer‏ @caspermacer Aug 27
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Lol, trust your own personal blog over a trustworthy, decades old news source? Okay...sure 🙄

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Nena Taylor‏ @silentwalker111 Aug 27
          Replying to @caspermacer @emptywheel

          Yeah, right! Where does empty wheel gets his/ her info? Faux news?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 27
          Replying to @silentwalker111 @caspermacer

          Actually reading the document closely, which few people who claim it has proven true have done.

          2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
        5. brian pillion‏ @anaphoristand Aug 27
          Replying to @emptywheel @silentwalker111 @caspermacer

          People who argue that it's "true" misunderstand what the document actually is. It's not supposed to be true, it's a compilation of rumors. It's a collection of well-sourced info explicitly requiring further verification.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Casper Macer‏ @caspermacer Aug 27
          Replying to @anaphoristand @emptywheel @silentwalker111

          The only argument I made was that many of the individual rumors, as you say, *have* been proven true.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. brian pillion‏ @anaphoristand Aug 27
          Replying to @caspermacer @emptywheel @silentwalker111

          Yeah, I wasn't referring to you or what you'd asserted (didn't read the piece), but Marcy's characterization of, "people who claim it's been proven true." Insofar as it's implicitly not a document even striving for "truth," it'd be silly to measure its value by such a standard.

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        1. Ron “Weak Stomach” Mexico‏ @Blobfishissexy Aug 27
          Replying to @emptywheel @caspermacer

          Why wouldn’t Steele know how to filter for possible disinformation?

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