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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 26
      Replying to @dansolomonza @AndrewCMcCarthy

      No. It didn't. AGAIN, my knowledge is based, in part, on actual events. I'm talking about reality, and you're talking about a misunderstanding of basic grammar.

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    2. Daniel Solomon‏ @dansolomonza Aug 26
      Replying to @emptywheel @AndrewCMcCarthy

      So If I go by what you are saying, would it be fair to assume Comey miss-led congress by stating there was CI investigation into Russian meddling when actually it was only the Trump campaign?

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    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 26
      Replying to @dansolomonza @AndrewCMcCarthy

      Nope. Did Comey say a single thing about how that investigation was structured?

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    4. Daniel Solomon‏ @dansolomonza Aug 26
      Replying to @emptywheel @AndrewCMcCarthy

      He said “Investigating the Russian government's efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election and that includes investigating the nature of any links between..Trump Campaign”. Include definition is "contain as part of a whole”. If no other parts thats misleading.

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    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 26
      Replying to @dansolomonza @AndrewCMcCarthy

      So, no. He didn't make any comments about the structure of the investigation and you're back to misreading grammar? Again, I've got real dates of real events of real investigations that Andy and you claim were always under Mueller and you've got ... a problem with grammar.

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    6. Daniel Solomon‏ @dansolomonza Aug 26
      Replying to @emptywheel @AndrewCMcCarthy

      so you agree his grammar was misleading?

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    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 26
      Replying to @dansolomonza @AndrewCMcCarthy

      His grammar described, as you said, about a whole (RU investigation) and a subset (Trump's people). Zero parts of that say anything about structure of investigation, about how that part related to the whole.

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    8. Daniel Solomon‏ @dansolomonza Aug 26
      Replying to @emptywheel @AndrewCMcCarthy

      Ok now I am confused again, you just stated my point from this entire thread? "whole (RU investigation) and a subset (Trump's people).” and Mueller was appointed to pickup what Comey described. Your claim was no "whole (RU investigation)" just Trumps people.

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 26
      Replying to @dansolomonza @AndrewCMcCarthy

      It is a fact that parts of the investigation NOT pertaining to Trump's people was not brought under Mueller until less than a year ago. That is consistent w/all public comments on the investigation, just not your reading of those public comments.

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    10. Daniel Solomon‏ @dansolomonza Aug 26
      Replying to @emptywheel @AndrewCMcCarthy

      Got you, I think … finally :) So Mueller picked up some Russia CI stuff - but not all - and the Trump campaign?

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 26
      Replying to @dansolomonza @AndrewCMcCarthy

      There is zero evidence that Mueller picked up ANY of the CI investigation that didn't directly pertain to Trump's people, and abundant evidence that he didn't.

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        2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 26
          Replying to @emptywheel @dansolomonza @AndrewCMcCarthy

          Until, perhaps bc DOJ discovered that those non-Trump CI investigations actually implicated Trump people, they got moved.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 26
          Replying to @emptywheel @dansolomonza @AndrewCMcCarthy

          So, in overly simplified form: May 2017: Mueller starts with just the Trump CI investigation November 2017: All the rest gets moved to Mueller

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        4. Daniel Solomon‏ @dansolomonza Aug 26
          Replying to @emptywheel @AndrewCMcCarthy

          If that is correct, DOJ + Congress + MSM have completely misled the American people on what Mueller was appointed to do.

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 26
          Replying to @dansolomonza @AndrewCMcCarthy

          No. Just you and Andy have totally misunderstood it, and ignored public reporting AND official reports AND litigation AND a bunch else. We can't read for you. You've got to be able to read before you can make accusations like that.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 26
          Replying to @emptywheel @dansolomonza @AndrewCMcCarthy

          You have yet to show me a single thing that is inconsistent with my understanding of this, and I've showed you that in fact the press has reported this.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Daniel Solomon‏ @dansolomonza Aug 26
          Replying to @emptywheel @AndrewCMcCarthy

          No, now I understand your point I dont have anything to dispute it. I can show you 95% of press reporting which do not show what you have. So i dont agree thats its just Andy and I. My bet would be 90% of public believe Mueller was investigating ALL Russia meddling not just Trump

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        8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 26
          Replying to @dansolomonza @AndrewCMcCarthy

          I've not seen anything like that (except the Lawfare thing, which I linked in my post). I have seen the Reuters and WSJ and WaPo reports that I linked that support my point (tho no one has noted some details I have).

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        9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 26
          Replying to @emptywheel @dansolomonza @AndrewCMcCarthy

          I do now understand Andy's point, which has always been erroneous about the CI status of this investigation. From the start there was a criminal nexus. But I only just realized he misunderstood scope.

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        1. Rosatom Ulbricht 🔥‏ @screenslaver Aug 26
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