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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 23
      Replying to @emptywheel

      I'm misreading huh. Are you telling me 18 U.S. Code 371 isn't listed in the warrant? I'll wait.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 23
      Replying to @aaronjmate

      Hey!! You discovered a CONSPIRACY. What you're INVENTING is that 18 USC 1503 is mentioned.

      3 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
    3. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 23
      Replying to @emptywheel

      if you won't answer the question, then why not slink away? it's obvious why you won't answer it, but I'll keep it showing why until you do: you got the statute wrong, and you know that statute is in the warrant. citing a different statute doesn't change that:pic.twitter.com/HyjL2r1zr9

      3 replies 2 retweets 3 likes
    4. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 23
      Replying to @aaronjmate @emptywheel

      btw, since I've never even mentioned 18 USC 1503, the only person doing any inventing when it comes to claim that "18 USC 1503 is mentioned" is you.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 23
      Replying to @aaronjmate

      Here's what it would look like if Mueller were investigating obstruction (a different part of statute). Know how I can prove that? Bc this is what Meuller's team used the very next day when they were investigating obstruction.pic.twitter.com/BCZjNHXgm7

      1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 23
      Replying to @emptywheel @aaronjmate

      And the REASON why I'm saying you invented it is bc for YOUR argument to be true something from that statute would necessarily be listed. It is not. Ergo, you have invented it bc if you didn't you would have to start managing your cognitive dissonance.

      2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    7. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 23
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Here's statute in Manafort warrant. A different statute in George P's doesn't prove anything. But let's say Mueller wasn't looking for obstruction in M warrant.* All you cay say is that he *might* have shown probable cause for a Russia conspiracy case. Ok, he hasn't charged one.pic.twitter.com/d6V7gkBmTT

      4 replies 2 retweets 3 likes
    8. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 23
      Replying to @aaronjmate @emptywheel

      *and btw, I never declared that he was, I just raised it as one possibility, which you then mischaracterized.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 23
      Replying to @aaronjmate

      I didn't mischaracterize it. I laughed my ass at the fact you were so desperate as to suggest it, and then tried to crawl your way out of that desperate situation. I'm still laughing.

      2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    10. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 23
      Replying to @emptywheel

      assuming you know what the word "could" means, then you mischaracterized. Compare your rendering of my words to my actual words. Happy laughing:pic.twitter.com/eVWa8L9Dg9

      4 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 23
      Replying to @aaronjmate

      Still laughing Aaron. There was never a chance it "could" be obstruction, given the warrant. It was just a desperate fantasy you invented to put off cognitive dissonance.

      12:38 PM - 23 Aug 2018
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        2. No Mustache Havin  🐜‏ @DawidsKing Aug 23
          Replying to @emptywheel @aaronjmate

          I keep following this exchange with the hope that eventually I’ll Get It

          1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
        3. Al‏ @Arse_N_Al Aug 23
          Replying to @DawidsKing @emptywheel @aaronjmate

          Me too

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        4.  🤔, PhD‏ @SciencePartisan Aug 23
          Replying to @Arse_N_Al @DawidsKing and

          Here’s the warrant. Just search for trump tower if you don’t want to read the whole thin. They had to have evidence to subpoena the Algarolov’s communication under conspiracy. https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000164-b7fd-d84f-a575-bfff39f30001 …

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        5. No Mustache Havin  🐜‏ @DawidsKing Aug 23
          Replying to @SciencePartisan @Arse_N_Al and

          Thanks for trying to help. Is the is one or the other clearly right? They both seem so certain.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6.  🤔, PhD‏ @SciencePartisan Aug 23
          Replying to @DawidsKing @Arse_N_Al and

          Aaron tried to argue it could be obstruction. But that’s not what’s listed. Conspiracy can often co-occur along with obstruction but obstruction is not listed in the warrant for what they’re looking for. Then he switched to we dont know what evidence the judge saw.

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        7. jack‏ @axre91a Aug 23
          Replying to @SciencePartisan @DawidsKing and

          The Trump Tower warrant could very well be about FARA violations (veselnitskaya/Agalarov) rather than conspiracy.

          3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        8.  🤔, PhD‏ @SciencePartisan Aug 23
          Replying to @axre91a @DawidsKing and

          @aaronjmate I can see you liked this tweet. How do you propose this would apply to a Manafort warrant for Fara violations related to Veselnitskaya. Bc that to me doesn’t seem to work or if it could it would still mean Trumps campaign manager was an agent acting to hand out emails

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. jack‏ @axre91a Aug 23
          Replying to @SciencePartisan @DawidsKing and

          What's the evidence that the meeting was about emails, let alone Manafort acted as agent in handing emails out? All evidence points to the meeting being about the Magnitsky act/bill browder. If veselnitskaya didn't register, and Manafort advanced her research - FARA violation.

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        1. Just a Giant Eyeball‏ @TheGreatLarue1 Aug 23
          Replying to @emptywheel @aaronjmate

          Have to say I'm finding these exchanges totally unenlightening.

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