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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 23
      Replying to @aaronjmate

      Aaron. You might want to read the warrant. Because you're making an utter mockery of your claim to be able to read. Honest. I'm suggesting this for your own self-respect.

      3 replies 0 retweets 17 likes
    2. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 23
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Marcy - insulting someone & insisting they read something they've already read is not an argument, it's a deflection from obvious facts: 1) you don't know what Mueller's aim was, warrant-wise, on Trump Tower 2) you do know that Mueller hasn't alleged a Trump-Russia conspiracy.

      2 replies 2 retweets 30 likes
    3. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 23
      Replying to @aaronjmate @emptywheel

      and by the way, the warrant cites title 18 U.S. Code 371. Yes, that could mean a Russia conspiracy. But it could also mean obstruction with an investigation into a Russia conspiracy. You've made sweeping assumptions not just about Mueller's intent, but what that means.

      1 reply 0 retweets 20 likes
    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 23
      Replying to @aaronjmate

      No. I haven't. I've read the warrant and also know there's a specific crime called obstruction of justice and it is not cited in that warrant. Anyway, congratulations for finding the conspiracy, Aaron. It only took you 3 hours of claiming it didn't exist.

      1 reply 0 retweets 12 likes
    5. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 23
      Replying to @emptywheel

      18 U.S. Code 371 can include obstruction w/ an investigation -- do you disagree?

      1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 23
      Replying to @aaronjmate

      Yes. As I just explained.

      1 reply 0 retweets 10 likes
    7. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 23
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Alright. If it's OK, I'm going to go with the DOJ over you on this one: https://www.justice.gov/usam/criminal-resource-manual-1739-offenses-related-obstruction-justice-offenses …pic.twitter.com/9jUCgYknwx

      1 reply 0 retweets 14 likes
    8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 23
      Replying to @aaronjmate

      Aaron, you honestly do not understand this. At all. Please stop embarrassing yourself.

      3 replies 0 retweets 15 likes
    9. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 23
      Replying to @emptywheel

      LOL. I show the actual statute -- which directly contradicts what you've just said, and mocked me about -- and that's your answer? Are you claiming to be a higher legal authority than DOJ? Silly me for expecting some humility.pic.twitter.com/rRZ6jqDfdC

      3 replies 1 retweet 19 likes
    10. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 23
      Replying to @aaronjmate

      No. You're misreading what you're looking at. You're misreading the precedence of one over another.

      3 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 23
      Replying to @emptywheel @aaronjmate

      Not to mention still making the most hilariously stupid argument about how a meeting with Russians might be obstruction, but put the base level stupidity aside for a moment.

      11:33 AM - 23 Aug 2018
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        2. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 23
          Replying to @emptywheel

          No, I've never made that argument, and it's obvious why you want to move goalposts and continue to falsely attribute claims to me after your claim was just shown to be demonstrably false. You know what I said: Mueller may be looking into obstruction surrounding June 9 meeting.

          2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 23
          Replying to @aaronjmate

          He undoubtedly is NOW!!! But again, there is a warrant that lays out what he was looking at then. You keep claiming the warrant says something it doesn't. No matter how much you wish that to be true, it consists of sheer fantasizing so you don't have to admit you're wrong.

          1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
        4. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 23
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Based on: a) warrant specifies zero about a Russia-Trump conspiracy case b) you got the statute wrong when it comes to obstruction c) there are zero charges of your Trump-Russia conspiracy to date; this: "You keep claiming the warrant says something it doesn't" is projection.pic.twitter.com/gswUYTjCfy

          2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 23
          Replying to @aaronjmate

          You are 1) misreading the warrant 2) pretending there's a statute listed there that's not 3) ignoring other parts of that warrant. I know cognitive dissonance hurts your little brain. Maybe take some time off Twitter to deal with that?

          1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
        6. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 23
          Replying to @emptywheel

          I'm misreading huh. Are you telling me 18 U.S. Code 371 isn't listed in the warrant? I'll wait.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 23
          Replying to @aaronjmate

          Hey!! You discovered a CONSPIRACY. What you're INVENTING is that 18 USC 1503 is mentioned.

          3 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
        8. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 23
          Replying to @emptywheel

          if you won't answer the question, then why not slink away? it's obvious why you won't answer it, but I'll keep it showing why until you do: you got the statute wrong, and you know that statute is in the warrant. citing a different statute doesn't change that:pic.twitter.com/HyjL2r1zr9

          3 replies 2 retweets 3 likes
        9. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 23
          Replying to @aaronjmate @emptywheel

          btw, since I've never even mentioned 18 USC 1503, the only person doing any inventing when it comes to claim that "18 USC 1503 is mentioned" is you.

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
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