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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 23

      Aaron Maté Retweeted emptywheel

      Here's where @emptywheel misrepresents my argument -- as is obvious by the very screenshot of mine she posts. Note that I don't say aim of June 9 warrant was "just obstruction" -- I point out that obstruction "could" be the aim:https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/1032655205836496896 …

      Aaron Maté added,

      emptywheel @emptywheel
      Here's where Aaron said a search warrant he hadn't read argued the June 9 meeting was just obstruction. pic.twitter.com/RqrYIzmtBo
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      10 replies 14 retweets 65 likes
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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 23
      Replying to @aaronjmate

      You're arguing claiming the June 9 meeting MIGHT BE ABOUT OBSTRUCTION is anything less than a laughable shitshow of an argument? Oh. When you get around to reading the warrant? You'll see that's not just laughable, but also demonstrably wrong.

      2 replies 2 retweets 43 likes
    3. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 23
      Replying to @emptywheel

      There is nothing in the warrant that shows or suggests Mueller has gathered evidence of a Trump-Russia conspiracy. He also hasn’t charged one since. Keep avoiding those 2 facts if you want. And yes, I think obstruction is a possible line of inquiry here.

      1 reply 0 retweets 34 likes
    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 23
      Replying to @aaronjmate

      Aaron. You might want to read the warrant. Because you're making an utter mockery of your claim to be able to read. Honest. I'm suggesting this for your own self-respect.

      3 replies 0 retweets 17 likes
    5. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 23
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Marcy - insulting someone & insisting they read something they've already read is not an argument, it's a deflection from obvious facts: 1) you don't know what Mueller's aim was, warrant-wise, on Trump Tower 2) you do know that Mueller hasn't alleged a Trump-Russia conspiracy.

      2 replies 2 retweets 30 likes
    6. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 23
      Replying to @aaronjmate @emptywheel

      and by the way, the warrant cites title 18 U.S. Code 371. Yes, that could mean a Russia conspiracy. But it could also mean obstruction with an investigation into a Russia conspiracy. You've made sweeping assumptions not just about Mueller's intent, but what that means.

      1 reply 0 retweets 20 likes
    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 23
      Replying to @aaronjmate

      No. I haven't. I've read the warrant and also know there's a specific crime called obstruction of justice and it is not cited in that warrant. Anyway, congratulations for finding the conspiracy, Aaron. It only took you 3 hours of claiming it didn't exist.

      1 reply 0 retweets 12 likes
    8. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 23
      Replying to @emptywheel

      18 U.S. Code 371 can include obstruction w/ an investigation -- do you disagree?

      1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 23
      Replying to @aaronjmate

      Yes. As I just explained.

      11:11 AM - 23 Aug 2018
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        2. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 23
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Alright. If it's OK, I'm going to go with the DOJ over you on this one: https://www.justice.gov/usam/criminal-resource-manual-1739-offenses-related-obstruction-justice-offenses …pic.twitter.com/9jUCgYknwx

          1 reply 0 retweets 14 likes
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 23
          Replying to @aaronjmate

          Aaron, you honestly do not understand this. At all. Please stop embarrassing yourself.

          3 replies 0 retweets 15 likes
        4. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 23
          Replying to @emptywheel

          LOL. I show the actual statute -- which directly contradicts what you've just said, and mocked me about -- and that's your answer? Are you claiming to be a higher legal authority than DOJ? Silly me for expecting some humility.pic.twitter.com/rRZ6jqDfdC

          3 replies 1 retweet 19 likes
        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 23
          Replying to @aaronjmate

          No. You're misreading what you're looking at. You're misreading the precedence of one over another.

          3 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
        6. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 23
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Ah, ok, so now we're shifting goalposts to "precedence." That has nothing to do with your claim, as you know.pic.twitter.com/8N9wcfhIj1

          2 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
        7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 23
          Replying to @aaronjmate

          I know this, Aaron. The FBI agent that got that warrant wrote down what he was investigating, for which a judge agreed he had shown probable cause. You INSIST, bc you want to sustain a belief in something that's not true, he wrote something else down.

          1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
        8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 23
          Replying to @emptywheel @aaronjmate

          I understand that you have spent a very long time grasping desperately to anything (and also, to ignoring the public record) such that you don't have to change your belief. But that is all you are doing at this point.

          3 replies 0 retweets 11 likes
        9. Conspirador Norteño‏ @conspirator0 Aug 23
          Replying to @emptywheel @aaronjmate

          Conspirador Norteño Retweeted Conspirador Norteño

          My two cents: there's a limit to how much of your time you should spend debating a dude who lies about math.https://twitter.com/conspirator0/status/1024697647330779136 …

          Conspirador Norteño added,

          Conspirador Norteño @conspirator0
          This statement "Most of the tweets are non-English" is false. The graph in @aaronjmate's tweet shows this: 837725 of 2973371 are non-English. That's 28%, which is not "most". Also, only 4% are for commercial purposes. Stop lying to your readers; they deserve better. https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1024298067049283584 …
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