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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 22

      I learned so much about journalism from both watching & working at @democracynow for many years. So the Russiagate era has been perplexing. Here's @emptywheel asserting existence of a Trump-Russia "conspiracy" as established truth without any pushback: https://www.democracynow.org/2018/8/22/michael_cohen_pleads_guilty_implicates_trump …pic.twitter.com/HyH4z6j0w3

      38 replies 92 retweets 229 likes
    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 22
      Replying to @aaronjmate @democracynow

      Aaron: Even pretending you engage with the actual evidence rather than your cute caricature of it, do you know what is legally required for a conspiracy?

      4 replies 4 retweets 76 likes
    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 22
      Replying to @emptywheel @aaronjmate @democracynow

      Here's a hint: All that's required for a criminal conspiracy is in the public record. That's it!! But that would require you to become familiar with the public record.

      5 replies 2 retweets 53 likes
    4. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 22
      Replying to @emptywheel @democracynow

      Marcy -- I know you believe, also based on your own reporting, that there was a conspiracy. My point is that the adversarial show you were interviewed on didn't challenge you to substantiate your assertion of it. Had they, you could've cited the public record as you did here.

      3 replies 1 retweet 33 likes
    5. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 22
      Replying to @aaronjmate @emptywheel @democracynow

      but since you raise it -- you'll agree that there is no allegation of a Trump-Russia conspiracy in the public record (Mueller, court docs, etc). So where is the evidence for it?

      1 reply 3 retweets 37 likes
    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 22
      Replying to @aaronjmate @democracynow

      There have been numerous allegations that are not *yet* charged. With the President's senile lawyer arguing that it shouldn't be charged bc Don Jr is just too dumb to know. But you are aligning yourself in the more senile than Rudy camp.

      9 replies 1 retweet 30 likes
    7. Goatstein‏ @Goatstein Aug 22
      Replying to @emptywheel @aaronjmate @democracynow

      you're saying that there is evidence in the public record yet, but there might be later, which is the same as saying there is currently no evidence in the public record, yet you are asserting it as settled fact

      2 replies 2 retweets 23 likes
    8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 22
      Replying to @Goatstein @aaronjmate @democracynow

      No no no. Aaron started this by asking for evidence. I pointed to it. He THEN said, but there are no charges. He moved the ball, not me. Typical of his bad faith performance.

      2 replies 1 retweet 11 likes
    9. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 22
      Replying to @emptywheel @Goatstein @democracynow

      That's not what happened. You cited the public record. I then said, since we "agree that there is no allegation of a Trump-Russia conspiracy in the public record... where is the evidence for it?" No ball moving, just ball locating!pic.twitter.com/k43b2CnYkc

      2 replies 2 retweets 28 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 22
      Replying to @aaronjmate @Goatstein @democracynow

      You mean something besides a criminal charge as an allegation? Bc I can point to a long list of allegations (indeed, this fight is over me making one!!!). What you did was say bc Mueller has not yet charged it the evidence (your original challenge) doesn't exist. Ball--moved.

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        2. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 22
          Replying to @emptywheel @Goatstein @democracynow

          I did not say that. I said that since there isn't an indictment for an alleged conspiracy, then there must be evidence for an alleged conspiracy -- if the conspiracy actually happened, as you maintained. So I asked you for that evidence.pic.twitter.com/JkunDs4GxZ

          2 replies 2 retweets 29 likes
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 22
          Replying to @aaronjmate @Goatstein @democracynow

          Aaron. Let's explain a little bit about prosecutions. Pro-se-cu-tions. They have to prepare for 6 week trials for things, including unreliable witnesses. As I've noted, you're inventing the Goldstone stuff. Maybe start there, w/what it actually says, like we already discussed?

          3 replies 1 retweet 8 likes
        4.  🤪 WokeWikidWizurd  🤯‏ @RamilioVerduzco Aug 22
          Replying to @emptywheel @aaronjmate and

          God damn you pro-Russia-conspiracy people suck. You expect people to accept your assertions with no evidence and have a dumbass rant that says "just wait and see". Meanwhile real interference occurs elsewhere and no outage from you. You ridiculous people.

          1 reply 3 retweets 15 likes
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        2. anieva‏ @julianaeleanore Aug 22
          Replying to @emptywheel @aaronjmate and

          "You mean something besides a criminal charge as an allegation?" Charges are not the same as evidence. Allegations are not the same as evidence. Indictments are not the same as evidence. I think he's asking your for, you know, EVIDENCE.https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/evidence …

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Jonathan Folland‏ @JonathanFolland Aug 23
          Replying to @julianaeleanore @emptywheel and

          Why is this so hard for so many to understand? Thank you for posting this. I will use this the next time someone says, "but 17 intelligence agencies blah blah blah".

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        2. mark kendall‏ @markken26158113 Aug 23
          Replying to @emptywheel @ChloePolitiCat and

          This is their most common lie (among many lies the Trumpies have no qualms about repeating), the old "There are no charges, he has nothing on Trump, therefore it's time to shut it down" Utter horseshit! No one knows what Mueller has, and won't until he presents his report. EOS!

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. mark kendall‏ @markken26158113 Aug 23
          Replying to @markken26158113 @emptywheel and

          But now there ARE charges, charges implicating Trump, to the point where he would've been arrested & charged if he didn't have Pres. privelege to hide behind. So now it's changed: There's no charges ABOUT RUSSIA, so he has nothing on Trump & needs to shut down QUICKLY! PLEASE!

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        2. notaboomer‏ @shrubfree Aug 22
          Replying to @emptywheel @aaronjmate and

          Just wake me up when Pence gets sworn in.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. mark kendall‏ @markken26158113 Aug 23
          Replying to @shrubfree @emptywheel and

          Please God NOOO! Please Mueller NOOO! FFS find something on White-head too! He's a hard core Goddy, they're ALWAYS hypocrites. Always doing something shady or downright horrific. What's his sin of choice, apart from supporting a criminal?

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