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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 22

    emptywheel Retweeted Katelyn Polantz

    TS Ellis mismanaged this trial, having no appreciation for the circus he was presiding over. And this is likely why Manafort's team wants 30 days to decide what to do about verdict.https://twitter.com/kpolantz/status/1032417096905510912 …

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    Katelyn PolantzVerified account @kpolantz
    DRAMA among Paul Manafort's jury almost led to a mistrial, according to newly unsealed transcripts from the trial. https://cnn.it/2PuFsi9 
    5:12 PM - 22 Aug 2018
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      2. lnOrOut‏ @Undetermined_US Aug 22
        Replying to @emptywheel

        The thing is if they get a new trial he could be convicted on all counts that he wasn't convicted of in the first trialor is that double jeopardy?

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 22
        Replying to @Undetermined_US

        Depends on what the defense does. They've also extended out such time as the second trial will be started.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. areyoukiddingme‏ @mhickey187 Aug 22
        Replying to @emptywheel @Undetermined_US

        After Trump watches the juror tonight on Fox @ 11 on his TIVO tomorrow morning he will probably pardon Manafort.

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 22
        Replying to @mhickey187 @Undetermined_US

        Ugh. You might be right. But he'll prolly fuck it up to make himself more exposed.

        4 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
      6. lnOrOut‏ @Undetermined_US Aug 22
        Replying to @emptywheel @mhickey187

        And Trump's cult doesn't give a damn about Manafort, they are content to see him hang.

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      2. sara-SF‏ @sara4SF Aug 22
        Replying to @emptywheel

        He certainly put his finger on the scale of justice. Re the delay in DC requested by Manafort attorneys -- just heard Lawrence O'Donnell ask a good question--could the delay be because they will make a plea deal. That sounds possible, but so does waiting for a pardon from Trump.

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 22
        Replying to @sara4SF

        I thought it might be at first, but it doesn't make sense.

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      4. sara-SF‏ @sara4SF Aug 22
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Seems time to learn about pardons fed v state & double jeopardy in states like NY. If Trump pardons Manafort, does it pardon him for convictions & future possible charges? He pardoned convicted Arpaio--but Arpaio couldn't testify again him like Manafort.https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-manafort/trump-says-hes-considering-pardon-for-manafort-fox-news-reporter-idUSKCN1L806F?ref=hvper.com&utm_source=hvper.com&utm_medium=website …

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      1. Cream Of Halloween Soup™ 🎃‏ @FeasterFamine Aug 22
        Replying to @emptywheel

        The biggest thing for me was that on a trial this huge the jury was not sequestered. That and all the officious nitpicking of the prosecution in front of the jury by Ellis. It's almost like the judge himself tampered with the jury.

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      1. Kenneth Jones‏ @bjoneslaw1972 Aug 22
        Replying to @emptywheel

        As a federal trial lawyer who couldn’t possibly be more sympathetic to the prosecution I have seen nothing - nor read any transcript - that would support that the judge mismanaged this case. Getting bitched out when you’re winning is the norm and helps you keep a verdict.

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      1. tatere. 🦑‏ @tatere Aug 22
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Ha, read that as TS Eliot at first. "Full of high sentence, but a bit obtuse"

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      1. Ben W Dickinson‏ @BenWDickinson Aug 22
        Replying to @emptywheel

        And what a florid, narcissistic jackass he was....

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      1. Troy Schuler‏ @TroySch1 Aug 22
        Replying to @emptywheel @brianbeutler

        Odds that the juror going on Fox tonight is the same as the one who snitched to Ellis?

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      1. Miss Roland‏ @RegalHarvester Aug 22
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I still appreciate the fact that the jury was able to hand down 8 guilty counts despite his drama queen antics - I didn't even expect THAT much.

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      2. Lisa Wetzelberger‏ @LisaWetzelberge Aug 22
        Replying to @emptywheel @brianbeutler

        Do you think this makes sense @JbkJbk1234 ?

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      3. CavsKermit‏ @JbkJbk1234 Aug 22
        Replying to @LisaWetzelberge @emptywheel @brianbeutler

        Not really. Juries are routinely instructed that the defense need not put on a defense and routinely consider it anyway.

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      4. Lisa Wetzelberger‏ @LisaWetzelberge Aug 22
        Replying to @JbkJbk1234 @emptywheel @brianbeutler

        Thanks

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      2. Lindsey McBride‏ @Lindsey_McBride Aug 22
        Replying to @emptywheel

        So tired of these childish, needy men. Drama queens should not be judges.

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