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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 22

      I learned so much about journalism from both watching & working at @democracynow for many years. So the Russiagate era has been perplexing. Here's @emptywheel asserting existence of a Trump-Russia "conspiracy" as established truth without any pushback: https://www.democracynow.org/2018/8/22/michael_cohen_pleads_guilty_implicates_trump …pic.twitter.com/HyH4z6j0w3

      38 replies 92 retweets 229 likes
    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 22
      Replying to @aaronjmate @democracynow

      Aaron: Even pretending you engage with the actual evidence rather than your cute caricature of it, do you know what is legally required for a conspiracy?

      4 replies 4 retweets 76 likes
    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 22
      Replying to @emptywheel @aaronjmate @democracynow

      Here's a hint: All that's required for a criminal conspiracy is in the public record. That's it!! But that would require you to become familiar with the public record.

      5 replies 2 retweets 53 likes
    4. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 22
      Replying to @emptywheel @democracynow

      Marcy -- I know you believe, also based on your own reporting, that there was a conspiracy. My point is that the adversarial show you were interviewed on didn't challenge you to substantiate your assertion of it. Had they, you could've cited the public record as you did here.

      3 replies 1 retweet 33 likes
    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 22
      Replying to @aaronjmate @democracynow

      They could have invited Rudy G who, though he has slightly more credibility on TV than you these days, has spent weeks trying to explain why Don Jr's entry into a conspiracy with Russia should be forgiven. Is that too secret for you?

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    6. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 22
      Replying to @emptywheel @democracynow

      ouch! you're incorrect -- RG has tried to explain why Don Jr took that meeting. To enter into a conspiracy there has to be an actual conspiracy. All you're pointing to is a music publicist's offer for a meeting.

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 22
      Replying to @aaronjmate @democracynow

      So, no. You are unaware of what a legal conspiracy requires OR of what Goldstone said the minimum message required was. We've been over how your case here actually is MORE incriminating for Don Jr but you're too Rudy senile to understand you're making prosecutor case.

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    8. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 22
      Replying to @emptywheel @democracynow

      the minimum message required for Goldstone was language that could secure a meeting for his client. And he succeeded! And they proceeded -- by all accounts, supported via zero presence in Mueller's indictments -- to have an actual meeting that did not result in a conspiracy.

      1 reply 10 retweets 6 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 22
      Replying to @aaronjmate @democracynow

      That's not what the record shows Aaron. Please stop making stuff up bc you confronted me w/o the mastery of the record to do so.

      4:45 PM - 22 Aug 2018
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        2. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Aug 22
          Replying to @emptywheel @democracynow

          if you're referring to reading all of the Goldstone transcripts (btw, if he arranged the conspiracy, will he be indicted too?) -- i've read them.

          2 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 22
          Replying to @aaronjmate @democracynow

          Oh. So you're choosing to misrepresent what they say? Perhaps try again, Aaron. There were specific elements included, that were tied to the meeting.

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        1. Jamie Barnett‏ @JamieLBarnett Aug 22
          Replying to @emptywheel @aaronjmate @democracynow

          Aaron doesn't "make stuff up" you're fucking out of line.

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        1. Ryan Hurst‏ @captainhurst Aug 22
          Replying to @emptywheel @aaronjmate @democracynow

          Anyone who has examined the public record and can’t see the obvious is fooling themselves. I like @joshtpm’s take that we have obvious public evidence indicating Trump’s guilt or complicity but that many in media can’t bring themselves to say as much.

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