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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 20

    emptywheel Retweeted Garrett M. Graff

    This is a worthwhile thread BUT I think it's a mistake to treat Hayden and Brennan (who ARE political animals) and Clapper and McRaven (who aren't, at least not the normal sense) in the same breath.https://twitter.com/vermontgmg/status/1031563633317343235 …

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    Garrett M. GraffVerified account @vermontgmg
    THREAD: I want to take a moment to elaborate why we should be so concerned that Jim Clapper, John Brennan, Admiral McRaven, Mike Hayden, and other officials feel it necessary to speak out against Trump:
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    8:35 AM - 20 Aug 2018
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      2. TraitorTrump‏ @managedchaos999 Aug 20
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I think the fact that any of these people are speaking up and making themselves targets is because they know a lot more than they can tell us.

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 20
        Replying to @managedchaos999

        Sort of, sort of not. It is the case that a ton on the investigation was not known on January 20, 2017.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. TraitorTrump‏ @managedchaos999 Aug 20
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Wasn't Brennan informed by GCHQ in 2015 about suspicious interactions between Russians and Trump?

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      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 20
        Replying to @managedchaos999

        That's something you know about.

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      6. TraitorTrump‏ @managedchaos999 Aug 20
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Meaning it's not important because it's public?

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      1. George Elson‏ @georgeselson Aug 20
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Marcy, is it a stretch to think many of these guys know a LOT more than they’re saying and are so alarmed they’ve come forward in an unprecedented fashion. NSA has been vacuuming up EVERYTHING for years and CIA spooks have been at their spy craft half a century. They know so much

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      1. walletninja‏ @Jacket_Spangler Aug 20
        Replying to @emptywheel

        this knee jerk reaction to label anyone who says something about a politician as political regardless of content or merit seems pretty nuts

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      1. Kevin Sarge‏ @Javakev Aug 20
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Here’s the problem with all of them, they only became this public after Trump came for them.

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      1. Dresden‏ @JudgeJudyPovich Aug 20
        Replying to @emptywheel

        They’re all patriots who have given their lives to the country. That’s the broader and more important point imo.

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      1. cw‏ @BoufantPuffydoo Aug 20
        Replying to @emptywheel

        They are in the same breath because sometimes peoples motives and principals align.

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      1. ninasergison‏ @ninasergison_0 Aug 20
        Replying to @emptywheel

        People really must listen to these men !!

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      1. 6 Sucks Sex‏ @6suckssex Aug 20
        Replying to @emptywheel

        #JamesClapper perpetrates massive unconstitutional warrantless spying program on Americans for years, then lies to congress and the People about it; sounds political in the normal sense

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      1. grid flay‏ @gridflay Aug 20
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Thanks for this, you've clearly stated what I was having trouble articulating for some reason.

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      1. Stirgleton‏ @OuijaForestCat Aug 20
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Garrett M. Graff seems to have completely forgotten that just 4 months ago all these "non-political" Natsec ghouls put on a PR campaign to get Gina Haspel in as CIA Director.

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      1. Kenneth Bernstein‏ @teacherken Aug 20
        Replying to @emptywheel

        yes, Hayden's politics come through in his recent book. Which makes his criticism of Trump perhaps even that more powerful.

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