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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 20

      The misuse of the word "cooperation" from political journalists is really detrimental to understanding legal cases. Did Don McGahn limit his own legal exposure by responding to Mueller's requests? Yup. Is he John Dean? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 20

      By far the funniest example of this is when Erik Prince or his legal pundit Victoria Toensing got people believing he "cooperated" because he complied with a subpoena. That's called "not being cited for contempt," people.

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    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 20

      George Papadopoulos, who confused even himself with a plea deal that wasn't not a cooperation deal, is another version of this. https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/08/18/the-ongoing-criminal-exposure-of-muellers-cooperating-witnesses/ … He never proffered enough to get a cooperation deal (prolly bc he was still hiding stuff).

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    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 20

      Here's the thing, though: Zero doubt that Rick Gates has been enormously helpful under his substantial plea deal. He's prolly the source of info that led to ~10 cell phones being searched. Prolly reason Mueller has focused on Roger Stone for six months. But!

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    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 20

      But you can also make a case with a large number of witnesses who simply small-c cooperate, tell enough truth to match the written documentation, to get at the underlying issues.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 20

      The most damaging witness in the Scooter Libby trial was, IMVHO, David Addington. You could have convicted Libby based on Addington's testimony and Libby's notes alone. Was he cooperating against his boos, Dick Cheney? Hell no. But damn he was a useful witness.

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        2. Violeta‏ @VioletaQSmith Aug 20
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Marcy, have you seen the "back story" podcast by the NYT on Mcgahn? They are really putting a lot of energy into this!

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 20
          Replying to @VioletaQSmith

          No. Does it report the only two details such a story should include: when the 3 or more meeting happened and whether it included case in chief?

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        4. Violeta‏ @VioletaQSmith Aug 20
          Replying to @emptywheel

          It's called "Mueller's Unlikely Witness", so I looked it up and saw it was about McGahn and didn't think it was with listening to.

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        5. Violeta‏ @VioletaQSmith Aug 20
          Replying to @VioletaQSmith @emptywheel

          Some of the notes underneath it are conflicting.https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/20/podcasts/the-daily/don-mcgahn-trump-mueller-investigation.html …

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        6. Violeta‏ @VioletaQSmith Aug 20
          Replying to @VioletaQSmith @emptywheel

          Ha, "why he did it"

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        1.  🎃Scarin’ Ney 🎃‏Verified account @DerenNey Aug 20
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          Temporarily reading that as Cheney is Libby’s “boo” will keep me up for weeks.

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