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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 17

      emptywheel Retweeted ABC News Politics

      Oh, so he DOES know this fella Paul Manafort? Or maybe he's just appalled that a tax cheat might see justice.https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/1030471634145107969 …

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      NEW: "I think the whole Manafort trial is very sad," Pres. Trump says. "I think it's a very sad day for our country." "He happens to be a very good person, and I think it's very sad what they've done to Paul Manafort." https://abcn.ws/2nMyGaK  pic.twitter.com/HF9piSKJCv
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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 17

      Incidentally, I bitch a lot about people missing the collusion forest for the obstruction trees. But if Trump pardons Manafort after having preemptively offering it, then I'm rushing to the head of the obstruction train.

      8:35 AM - 17 Aug 2018
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        2. Tegan Mathis‏ @TeganMathis Aug 17
          Replying to @emptywheel

          If Donald Trump pardons Paul Manafort, won't Paul Manafort be required to testify against Donald Trump?

          1 reply 6 retweets 7 likes
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 17
          Replying to @TeganMathis

          Yes, but he can pardon the contempt when Manafort does not.

          5 replies 4 retweets 15 likes
        4. Garner Kropp‏ @Garner_Kropp Aug 17
          Replying to @emptywheel @TeganMathis

          President can pardon criminal contempt but not civil contempt. So if the House flips, the blue house can subpoena a pardoned Manafort to testify, and Manafort can't raise the Fifth and can't be re-pardoned for contempt if he doesn't testify.

          2 replies 9 retweets 20 likes
        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 17
          Replying to @Garner_Kropp @TeganMathis

          Which brings us to Congress' historic inability to hold witnesses in contempt if DOJ won't help them.

          0 replies 1 retweet 13 likes
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        2. Dan Roosien‏ @droosien Aug 17
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Obstruction junction, what's your function?

          1 reply 2 retweets 17 likes
        3. Dan Roosien‏ @droosien Aug 17
          Replying to @droosien @emptywheel

          Also, wouldn't it be the conspiracy forest or the ConFraudUS forest?

          0 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
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        1. Dean is horrifying until November‏ @DeanMSimmons Aug 17
          Replying to @emptywheel @s_2_th_honda

          Well, let's not overlook that money laundering for the Russian mob has probably been Trump's business mainstay since the late 90's, and is why Putin knew Trump would be a good tool.

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        1. DaleWillResist 📣‏ @awelab1956 Aug 17
          Replying to @emptywheel

          More cases are ahead. Ppl were talking about this earlier. If Manny's pardoned he loses his 5th amendment rights and testimony is compelled in future cases. There are many future cases against Manny.

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        1. HeatChalk‏ @nowhitechalk Aug 17
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Manafort will still have to testify and face perjury/contempt charges in Russia probe. There will be an open window if this door closes. And if Trump pardons all crimes that pardon will not hold. "Related to impeachment." Trump will lose the war.

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        2. HRCSuperVol1‏ @hrcsupervol01 Aug 17
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Trump, “He happens to be a very good person.” His daughters texted about how Manafort routinely forced his wife into gang bangs, aka, gang rape.

          2 replies 6 retweets 15 likes
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        1. Mark Twain‏ @SarriaPaul Aug 17
          Replying to @emptywheel

          For all we know Trump offered him a pardon thru a back channel and this trial is a farce.

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        2. Charlie Taben‏ @gbglax Aug 17
          Replying to @emptywheel

          The public is generally uninformed on witness tapering/pardon offers. Mueller has DJT in a box. Legal mismatch of Western civilization

          1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
        3. colene b. durocher  📢‏ @cocobadu Aug 17
          Replying to @gbglax @bfm4440 @emptywheel

          This is reassuring. I hope it’s true!

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Charlie Taben‏ @gbglax Aug 17
          Replying to @cocobadu @bfm4440 @emptywheel

          Pardons cement obstruction. Especially the countless, daisy chain variety. He’s accosted all interviewed by Mueller. His team believes they have exposure. We will learn a lot more about pardon offers, especially. As Marcy says, it’s about conspiracy, in turn obstruction

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        1. Blank Slate‏ @blankslate2017 Aug 17
          Replying to @emptywheel

          I think this is right. Dowd had to quit b/c he was caught preemptively shopping pardons.

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        1. Midterms are coming vote.org‏ @BoboBrazil3 Aug 17
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Republican controlled House won't impeach even for obstruction

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        2. David Sanger‏ @davidsanger Aug 17
          Replying to @emptywheel

          If Trump pardons Manafort on the tax evasion charge won’t he still have to pay the back taxes? Not the penalties or interest but the tax itself.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. rbarris‏ @rbarris Aug 17
          Replying to @davidsanger @emptywheel

          And does Manafort's accountant get her job back ?

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Edward DeRuiter‏ @edwardderuiter Aug 17
          Replying to @rbarris @davidsanger @emptywheel

          Oh I'm guessing she loses the certification part of certified public accountant. Kind of like a lawyer getting disbarred or a doctor losing their medical license.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. rbarris‏ @rbarris Aug 17
          Replying to @edwardderuiter @davidsanger @emptywheel

          But why was she fired ?

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