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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 9

    Fwiw I don’t think the Mueller subpoena for Trump comes next. I think an indictment comes first. Suspect there are a few more pieces for that, but not many.

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      1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 9

        Also please please please stop with this “can’t indict during election season” bullshit. Name one person being targeted here (with the possible exception of Rohrabacher) who is on the ballot? Manafort? Nope Don Jr? Nope Roger Stone? Nope

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      2. Rick Gundlach‏ @Hoofin Aug 9
        Replying to @emptywheel

        This is not Watergate. This is worse than Watergate. Jill Wine keeps going on O'Donnell and making Watergate parallels. She sounds like the old aunt that wants to talk about the good ol' days. Mueller really needs to issue indictments to ANY e-branch official that did a crime.

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      3. RedMC‏ @RedMC6 Aug 9
        Replying to @Hoofin @emptywheel

        Respectfully disagree. Having lived thru Watergate, I like the comparisons as Mueller’s investigation proceeds. And when I’ve seen her, recollect that she always relates to Mueller, current situation.

        2 replies 1 retweet 16 likes
      4. Chris Howell‏ @ChrisHowellUCLA Aug 9
        Replying to @RedMC6 @Hoofin @emptywheel

        Off base. JWB has been there. Her recollections of how far Nixon's GOP allies went in trying to cover up crimes of a corrupt Pres and Admin are quite relevant today. She's wise, elegant, and not a blind partisan. If she's somebody's Aunt I'm pretty sure she's their favorite ❤️

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      5. Rick Gundlach‏ @Hoofin Aug 9
        Replying to @ChrisHowellUCLA @RedMC6 @emptywheel

        She was also head of the ABA and had a role in the Carter administration. I don't think she is a "blind partisan". I am just saying: this is NOT Watergate. This is something worse. Watergate comparisons are quaint.

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      6. Chris Howell‏ @ChrisHowellUCLA Aug 9
        Replying to @Hoofin @RedMC6 @emptywheel

        Good point. This is far worse in depth, scope and menace. An existential threat. Most useful Watergate comparison is in how Congress and society respond. We now have Fox propaganda 24/7 and a GOP base hostile to all facts. We have no Barry Goldwater, only a Cowardice Congress

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      7. maltese mama‏ @tz1969 Aug 9
        Replying to @ChrisHowellUCLA @Hoofin and

        i believe jill has stated this is worse than watergate on a number of occassions.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      8. Rick Gundlach‏ @Hoofin Aug 11
        Replying to @tz1969 @ChrisHowellUCLA and

        I don't remember hearing that on her routine appearances on Lawrence, but maybe she has. Her focus should be exclusively on how this is NOT Watergate. No foreign power corruption/illegal act was involved in Watergate. Maybe Dallas in 1963, but not Watergate.

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      2. Wouter van der Horst‏ @DerWouter Aug 9
        Replying to @emptywheel

        While we're waiting, here's Trump business associate, Mar-A-Lago regular & one time mobster Joseph Cinque circa '89: https://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/06/28/Art-of-thievery-puts-man-behind-bars/6327615009600/ …pic.twitter.com/z7Y0M7LBcX

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      3. Wouter van der Horst‏ @DerWouter Aug 9
        Replying to @DerWouter @emptywheel

        Wouter van der Horst Retweeted mrs panstreppon

        Cinque has longtime friends in the FBI:https://twitter.com/mrspanstreppon/status/1027517108702380032 …

        Wouter van der Horst added,

        mrs panstreppon @mrspanstreppon
        Replying to @DerWouter @kylegriffin1
        Joey No Socks Cinque? You mean Special Agent Ann Beagan's BFF? Ann is the long time NYC FBI office director of public affairs. Any surprise the Trump campaign knew what was going on w/Abedin's emails between Ann & James Kallstrom? pic.twitter.com/6UgfhZHRsm
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      4. Wouter van der Horst‏ @DerWouter Aug 9
        Replying to @DerWouter @emptywheel

        Cinque also likes to give Trump's properties awards. Because Trump virtually owns the "branding organization."pic.twitter.com/NCwXkgyVYC

        1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
      5. HelenSavage‏ @HelenSavage Aug 9
        Replying to @DerWouter @emptywheel

        Hospitality sciences 😂🤣

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      2. OK_Dumbass‏ @OK_Dumbass Aug 9
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I hope Rosenstein gives the go-ahead for Mueller to indict Trump, who poses a clear/present natsec danger to the entire planet. With Trump mentally incapacitated by rage, Cabinet would have to grow a spine and invoke 25th Amendment to prevent him from going around the bend.

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      2. Melissa -  💻 🚪  🚶‍♀️ = 🌊‏ @MelissaLKnutson Aug 9
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Agree. Why would Mueller waste time on Trump when his son clearly broke the law. Ppl need to forget the obstruction nonsense. It’s too squishy. Indictments. Tighten the circle around 45.

        2 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
      3. Frank - March!Vote!Protest!Speak!  🇺🇸‏ @model_daughters Aug 9
        Replying to @MelissaLKnutson @emptywheel

        This is how I hear such investigations are typically done. Start at the outside and work you way in, shaking the tree to scoop up everything that falls out and can talk along the way. Trump would most likely be last and hopefully sufficiently hobbled.

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      2. V̲̲̅̅i̲̲̅̅r̲̲̅̅t̲̲̅̅u̲̲̅̅a̲̲̅̅l̲̲̅̅T̲̲̅̅a̲̲̅̅l̲̲̅̅‏Verified account @VirtualTal Aug 9
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I think get Don Jr or Kush first. Give Trump one more chance to totally lose the plot and do something drastic when that happens.

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      3. Puns N' Roses‏ @gthanku Aug 9
        Replying to @VirtualTal @emptywheel

        Once Don Jr goes down, Trump will go apeshit, mostly b/c Jr implicates Trump. So at that point Mueller & Rosenstein will prob expect to be fired & also not count on GOP to grow a spine. So Jr might be part of the last shoe to drop.

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      1. Wallace Hays‏ @fwhllc Aug 9
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Agreed. Walsh indicted Casper Weinberger on Oct 30, 1992, a week before the 1992 presidential election.

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