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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 4

    emptywheel Retweeted Lawfare

    Sadly, Lawfare didn't account for much of the evidence -- especially what kompromat would look like -- in this. https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/08/02/lawfare-missing-the-kompromat-for-the-pee-glee/ …https://twitter.com/lawfareblog/status/1025762283006435328 …

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    Before the Comey firing, before the Trump Tower meeting became public, before Mueller was appointed as special counsel, @lawfareblog published 7 potential theories about L’Affaire Russe. Which of those theories are still plausible readings of the facts? http://bit.ly/2KmO32K 
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      2.  🇺🇲 Gw 👻i L 🌐, MD  🇺🇲‏ @GwailoMD Aug 4
        Replying to @emptywheel

        So Putin's play was: -Have a small amount of kompromat. -Blackmail an idiot into illegally conspiring with you. -Use their participation as kompromat. -Repeat. It's the Putin Parlay.

        2 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 5
        Replying to @GwailoMD

        No. Forget the goddamned pee tape.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      4.  🇺🇲 Gw 👻i L 🌐, MD  🇺🇲‏ @GwailoMD Aug 5
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Not the pee tape. Financial stuff.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Aug 5
        Replying to @GwailoMD

        Forget the goddamned financial stuff. yes, RU probably could BK Trump Org, but that's not what this is about.

        1 reply 2 retweets 4 likes
      6. Puns N' Roses‏ @gthanku Aug 5
        Replying to @emptywheel @GwailoMD

        I think you might have to write another post spelling out (& hope some of it will seep through to the 'Mueller experts') on why ConFraudUS blackmail is much more important than fin crimes & how Putin focused on establishing Trump ConFraudUS blackmail at various steps.

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      2. Fake Dean Acheson‏ @FakeDeanAcheson Aug 4
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I agree with much of this. Assuming Veselnitskaya was acting at the behest of the Kremlin, she surely would have taped the meeting with DJTJ. I think it's more likely than not that the Russians have something compromising from that or another similar call/meeting.

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      3. Fake Dean Acheson‏ @FakeDeanAcheson Aug 4
        Replying to @FakeDeanAcheson @emptywheel

        But Trump's strange behavior wrt Russia predates that meeting, so it doesn't explain everything odd that's going on.

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      2. outsh1ned‏ @outsh1ned Aug 5
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Is your theory really that Putin has kompromat in this series of events? 1. DNC emails dumped 2. Trump, genius, jokes that it's a pity they can't find HRC's missing 2013 Benghazi omg emails 3. 2nd HRC-specific phishing occurs and is unsuccessful. What receipts would that leave?pic.twitter.com/p7EbWKTosk

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      3. outsh1ned‏ @outsh1ned Aug 5
        Replying to @outsh1ned @emptywheel

        Isn't the defining characteristic of kompromat that you have something at the end to produce? That being a prerequisite for a story about how it came about, via nefarious acts. Why would you think that works if you don't have the product.

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      4. Ray [REDACTED]‏ @RayRedacted Aug 5
        Replying to @outsh1ned @emptywheel

        Actually no. The defining trait of компромат is that the mark *BELIEVES* that you have damaging materia. If they don’t know exactly what that entails, in many ways this is even more powerful. For example, in Soviet days the KGB would use prostitutes with or without recoding it.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Ray [REDACTED]‏ @RayRedacted Aug 5
        Replying to @RayRedacted @outsh1ned @emptywheel

        Just the idea that the KGB has photograhs or recordings was enough to scare people into being manipulated. In fact, the KGB often used completely fabricated photos or recordings knowing that it would be enough to influence the mark.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Ray [REDACTED]‏ @RayRedacted Aug 5
        Replying to @RayRedacted @outsh1ned @emptywheel

        But regardless, it is 100 obvious that the “joke” was something that Candidate Trump was asked to do as a way of communicating agreement to accepting assistance. The “tell” is the way he stumbled on “greatly rewarded..... .... BY OUR PRESS”

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      7. Ray [REDACTED]‏ @RayRedacted Aug 5
        Replying to @RayRedacted @outsh1ned @emptywheel

        And the biggest point of all, as @emptywheel so astutely observes, is that President Trump knows Putin has the goods on him, period, which is why he is acting so recklessly in placating Putin.

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      8. outsh1ned‏ @outsh1ned Aug 5
        Replying to @RayRedacted @emptywheel

        That may be the case but it's not in relation to the threat of exposing his part in a hack that [a] everyone on earth already saw him say, and [b] didn't happen. It doesn't work dude.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. Ray [REDACTED]‏ @RayRedacted Aug 5
        Replying to @outsh1ned @emptywheel

        If (the hack) “didn’t happen”, how exactly do you explain the airtight coordination between the WikiLeaks releases and the Trump campaigns major talking point of each campaign day? I posit that the go phrase was supposed to be “Russia if you are listening” and Putin has proof.

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      2. Luci Hundley‏ @luci_hundley Aug 4
        Replying to @emptywheel

        So Trump called for the action, and they executed the action, and that’s the smoking gun? It looks dirty as sin, the worst evidence yet. But we need 1 more piece. Somebody from team Trump must contact team Putin and say: He’s going to make a speech, when he says X it means go.

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      3. Luci Hundley‏ @luci_hundley Aug 4
        Replying to @luci_hundley @emptywheel

        But those 164 calls for Wikileaks, I love Wikileaks... There was a form of communication established 6/9/16? Maybe they agreed to certain public proclamations as the signal? TBH I was shocked when US Marshals did not pull him off stage when he said: Russia if you’re listening...

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      1. Jeffrey L. Staley‏ @jeffreylstaley Aug 4
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Concur, likewise let us not forget that within hours of his inauguration, the Trump Administration put into motion at State to report how sanctions could be lifted.

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      1. Dan Galinko‏ @dgalinko Aug 4
        Replying to @emptywheel

        They should just give up and try to hire you

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