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    1. P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡‏ @pwnallthethings Jul 24
      Replying to @emptywheel @normative

      I read section IV as bringing to the court's attention all the facts that counterweight the FBI's argument. There are three public ones: * Yahoo article w highlights that campaign claims Page was a nobody * Page's denial letter * Another article where Page says claims are garbage

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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 24
      Replying to @pwnallthethings @normative

      I know you read it that way. It's a misreading of the Yahoo article (particularly the part that uses anonymous sourcing to talk about worries about this), and what people who've read the section the Yahoo letter is in there for.

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    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 24
      Replying to @emptywheel @pwnallthethings @normative

      I get that you have it in your head that they must have included a separate exonerating section, but your argument here doesn't make any sense, bc that section doesn't do that, even if they would have one in an affy, which I've never ever seen.

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    4. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative Jul 24
      Replying to @emptywheel @pwnallthethings

      Well, split the difference: I would expect them to bring to the court’s attention the fact that Page had disputed the claims. But the section is titled “Page’s public denials,” and the redacted half page at the end of it has to be something other than a further public denial.

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    5. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative Jul 24
      Replying to @normative @emptywheel @pwnallthethings

      I can’t think of what non-public information would fit into the end of that section other than: intel suggesting some portion of the preceding information was false.

      1 reply 2 retweets 3 likes
    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 24
      Replying to @normative @pwnallthethings

      I've done 10 page analysis to explain it that I will, once finalized, make available to the non-adversarial powers who will actually use it. NGOs and journalists, however, should start paying for the work they're not doing themselves.

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    7. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative Jul 24
      Replying to @emptywheel @pwnallthethings

      I’m a little confused, I thought our analysis of that section was more or less in agreement—that it’s about showing Page’s effort to conceal conduct.

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    8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 24
      Replying to @normative @pwnallthethings

      Yes. I'm a bit stronger than you. That section might be a "we take from this it's evidence of denial and deception and therefore clandestine" explaining the (7E). Prolly not specific intel given ONLY 7 exemptions.

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    9. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative Jul 24
      Replying to @emptywheel @pwnallthethings

      Only B7? I’m looking at the end of the “Denials” section and it’s got B(1) and B(3) exceptions also.

      2 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
    10. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative Jul 24
      Replying to @normative @emptywheel @pwnallthethings

      What would not be surprising is if they had independent corroboration that Page *met* with one or both Russian officials, but only Steele as the basis for what was said in the meetings (“kompromat” etc.).

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 24
      Replying to @normative @pwnallthethings

      Except ... it would be surprising bc we'd know about that. And it's inconsistent with the Schiff memo.

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        2. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative Jul 24
          Replying to @emptywheel @pwnallthethings

          Inconsistent in what way?

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 24
          Replying to @normative @pwnallthethings

          This section of Schiff's memo refers to this section of the last application. If there were a mention proving Sechin and Dvorkovich in the first, it'd be addressed here.pic.twitter.com/0NysF8kk5e

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        4. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative Jul 24
          Replying to @emptywheel @pwnallthethings

          I don’t know if that rules out their having *something* beyond Steele in the first application and more substantial corroboration later, but yeah, that does probably weigh against my idea.

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 24
          Replying to @normative @pwnallthethings

          It's absolutely clear Page had meetings w/Russians of interest, especially as they kept wiretapping or analyzed more of his stored comms. There remains not a shred of evidence he met w/Sechin and Dvorkovich, which is consistent with the unreliability of rest of the dossier.

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        6. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative Jul 24
          Replying to @emptywheel @pwnallthethings

          Well, I guess we’ll see. But the meetings are the key Steele claims in the application. I don’t know what Schiff’s claim that subsequent sources “corroborated Steele’s reporting” would mean other than “corroborated the meetings.”

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        7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 24
          Replying to @normative @pwnallthethings

          They could also mean that Schiff is overselling the dossier, which is consistent with his other known actions AND with Warner's greater caution on the dossier, well after the Schiff memo.

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