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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 20

    emptywheel Retweeted Deadline White House

    Very interesting this call went out *yesterday.* Remember, FIVE Mueller lawyers were in closed court room w/Andrew Miller's lawyers yesterday. When have 5 Mueller lawyers ever shown up to a courtroom?https://twitter.com/DeadlineWH/status/1020412559667712000 …

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    Deadline White HouseVerified account @DeadlineWH
    "Breaking news: NBC News has confirmed that Manhattan madame Kristen Davis is being subpoenaed by special counselor Robert Mueller... Davis just told NBC news, someone in Mueller’s office called her lawyer yesterday to ask if she would accept a subpoena..." - @NicolleDWallace pic.twitter.com/EmWFSviSqU
    2:48 PM - 20 Jul 2018
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    32 replies 338 retweets 748 likes
      1. New conversation
      2. Susana Venir‏ @susana_venir Jul 20
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Two of the special counsel lawyers were appellate specialists (Jed and the renowned Dreeben) and one was a Russia specialist (Prelogar). Other two not identified by observers as far as I've been able to find.

        2 replies 5 retweets 21 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 23
        Replying to @susana_venir

        Yeah, I assumed Dreeben was one of the five. Do you have a link for where his presence was noted?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2. Deb Wallace‏ @irondebwallace Jul 20
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Just speculating, but Davis has some financial savvy. May have links to her friend Stone and his associate Miller re: money laundering. Issues could cut across multiple lanes of Mueller investigation, therefore multiple attorneys / prosecutors present.

        1 reply 5 retweets 30 likes
      3. Beth Kania‏ @beth_kania Jul 20
        Replying to @irondebwallace @emptywheel

        That makes a lot of sense.

        0 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
      4. End of conversation
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      2. mobiustrips‏ @bend_time Jul 20
        Replying to @emptywheel @JJohnsonLaw

        nevah hoid of andrew millah. googling.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. mobiustrips‏ @bend_time Jul 20
        Replying to @bend_time @emptywheel @JJohnsonLaw

        ahhh, mm hmm.https://www.newsweek.com/who-andrew-miller-stone-spitzer-1000050 …

        1 reply 2 retweets 25 likes
      4. cindibisenius‏ @CindibiseniusOr Jul 20
        Replying to @bend_time @emptywheel @JJohnsonLaw

        Ah ha good work!

        0 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
      5. End of conversation
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      2. Ed Bott [404: Halloween Name Not Found]‏Verified account @edbott Jul 20
        Replying to @emptywheel

        This is some well-funded conservative legal group that took this case and is trying to mount a legal challenge to Mueller's jurisdiction. Looks like Mueller wants to send a message to these guys.pic.twitter.com/SuE42viVOl

        2 replies 3 retweets 8 likes
      3. Ed Bott [404: Halloween Name Not Found]‏Verified account @edbott Jul 20
        Replying to @edbott @emptywheel

        The outfit in question is the National Legal and Policy Center, a Scaife funded 501(c)(3).

        1 reply 4 retweets 10 likes
      4. beulahjetson‏ @fideldd Jul 24
        Replying to @edbott @emptywheel

        That Scaife pot spent itself out a few years back, didn't it? The Olin Foundation ran out in 2005. Who is funding this group now?

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Ed Bott [404: Halloween Name Not Found]‏Verified account @edbott Jul 24
        Replying to @fideldd @emptywheel

        Kochs, maybe? They were loosely affiliated with the ALEC gang, which is a Koch project. But I don't know much more than that.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. beulahjetson‏ @fideldd Jul 24
        Replying to @edbott @emptywheel

        Scaife funded the creation of ALEC, but like I said; he was no engineer.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      7. Ed Bott [404: Halloween Name Not Found]‏Verified account @edbott Jul 24
        Replying to @fideldd @emptywheel

        The interlocking org charts of these groups would be instructive. Too bad they've done such a good job of burying those operational details. At any rate, the org that started this discussion is fighting tooth and nail to stop Mueller.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Bingstein‏ @Bingstein Jul 20
        Replying to @emptywheel

        This needs an explainer

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. runtodaylight‏ @runtodaylight Jul 20
        Replying to @Bingstein @emptywheel

        Per others above, best guess is that it's a connection to Roger Stone.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. Bingstein‏ @Bingstein Jul 20
        Replying to @runtodaylight @emptywheel

        But why 5 lawyers? Seems important.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. LisaSea‏ @LisaSeaFL Jul 20
        Replying to @Bingstein @runtodaylight @emptywheel

        Never forget that Stone was in touch with Assange and Guccifer so this could be a pretty big deal.

        0 replies 2 retweets 13 likes
      6. End of conversation
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      2. Isla #FBPE‏ @IslaArundel Jul 20
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Not to jump the gun or anything, but is there anything anyone will be able to do when Trump eventually fires Mueller? Was reading this today and it was pretty depressing:https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/20/house-dems-plan-longshot-gambit-to-protect-mueller-734947 …

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Jimmy Durrr‏ @Jimmy_Durrr Jul 20
        Replying to @IslaArundel @emptywheel

        Trump firing Mueller is the most obvious thing ever. Mueller had to have started planning for this literally the first week. Still scary though.

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      4. Isla #FBPE‏ @IslaArundel Jul 20
        Replying to @Jimmy_Durrr @emptywheel

        Well, he kinda specialises in obvious. He has the luxury of doing pretty much as he likes because his base is solid and approval ratings steady. Doesn't get much more obvious that inviting Putin to the White House, does it? What can Mueller do if he's fired? What can anyone do?

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      5. runtodaylight‏ @runtodaylight Jul 20
        Replying to @IslaArundel @Jimmy_Durrr @emptywheel

        Confident Mueller has a plan, may include banked indictments. The fact that SDNY, DC, EDVA, WDPA, and other U.S. Attorneys are involved makes Mueller less of a single point of failure.

        2 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
      6. Isla #FBPE‏ @IslaArundel Jul 20
        Replying to @runtodaylight @Jimmy_Durrr @emptywheel

        I hope you're right. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiZGYmHW4AA1N2Q.jpg …

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      7. End of conversation

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