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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 16

    It's my experience that even with the NRA Russian spy, people think of the network of influence FAR too narrowly, as if it's the same players everywhere. Nuh uh. The Russians went broad and deep. Lots of these people aren't going to be household names.

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      1. Russian Mob Chicken‏ @Chicken79753422 Jul 16
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Sounds more like an invasion than "meddling"

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      1. Ms. A‏ @MsFosterToYou Jul 16
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I would be booking my voluntary meeting with FBI if I was them. I would sing until my voice box collapsed.

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      2. Ryan Herra‏ @RyanHerra Jul 16
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I'm concerned about the possibility there are Dem House and Senate challengers being Russian assets that were put in place in case there was a blue wave in response to Trump.

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      3. menotu‏ @goshofar Jul 16
        Replying to @RyanHerra @emptywheel

        I've thought that, too.

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      2. Andrew C. White‏ @AndrewCWhite Jul 16
        Replying to @emptywheel

        It's very clear they used every angle they could dream up. How many "back channel" stories are there? How many *different* back channels did they attempt to open?... that we know of already... how many more that we don't?

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      1. Keith‏ @keith___m Jul 16
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Getting closer to directly implicating the Trump family. Lots of loose ends and the Trumps are too greedy to let things pass.

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      1. Zodis Great‏ @zodisgreat Jul 16
        Replying to @emptywheel

        There’s a name for that:pic.twitter.com/N2jIEiyvFs

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      1. go gata!‏ @UFMechEngy Jul 16
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Im guessing evangelicals have their own spies lol

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      1. #GOTMFV & Make A Plan to VOTE Early by Nov. 6‏ @Blue__America Jul 17
        Replying to @emptywheel

        You mean they could just move in next door one day and you'd never suspect?pic.twitter.com/byNOnlCBGh

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      1. Zap Radon‏ @zapradon Jul 16
        Replying to @emptywheel @Thomas_Drake1

        That is pure McCarthyist witch hunting.

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      1. spencer‏ @SpencerH8sTwitr Jul 16
        Replying to @emptywheel

        This type of operation doesn't happen w/out both knowledge & complicity from lots of people. Game theory this shit out: if you do that & just let the outcomes dictate outlooks, the non-malicious possibilities are dwindling quickly. IE, this is an intentional plan

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      1. Robert Posey‏ @regretblues Jul 16
        Replying to @emptywheel

        “Outreach” to evangelicals is logical place to look next.

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      1. MushuWeasel‏ @mushuweasel Jul 16
        Replying to @emptywheel

        It's the mistake of thinking "don't they have better things to do?"

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      1. Scary Really‏ @Soligarity Jul 16
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Scary Really Retweeted Scary Really

        My best guesseshttps://twitter.com/soligarity/status/1018980158412328976?s=21 …

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      1. Francine‏ @pudhhi Jul 16
        Replying to @emptywheel

        And it trickles down to include all those who are still blathering about the emails.

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      2. leveller‏ @lib_ertarian_ Jul 16
        Replying to @emptywheel

        ok, but 1. does any of it rise above usual spy gains influence and supports preferred outcome - is there any coordination with Trump and/or his people? and 2. regardless of the answer to 1, did this really cause Clinton to lose her 10 point lead over Trump?

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      3. leveller‏ @lib_ertarian_ Jul 16
        Replying to @lib_ertarian_ @emptywheel

        because it really seems like this is being far overblown in the service of relitigating the election. e.g. is there this much hubbub over AIPAC and Israeli influence in our elections and candidate choice? What about Saudi Arabia? Why is Russian meddling uniquely harmful?

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      4. leveller‏ @lib_ertarian_ Jul 16
        Replying to @lib_ertarian_ @emptywheel

        also, one wonders how so many Russian spies were able to last so long with such shoddy communications practices given that arresting Russian spies is a pretty common thing. Is parallel construction only for use against domestic dissent?https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jan/26/us-charges-alleged-russian-spies-new-york …

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      5. leveller‏ @lib_ertarian_ Jul 16
        Replying to @lib_ertarian_ @emptywheel

        And I fully support weeding these spies out, just as I support the same treatment for any other country's humint assets here.

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