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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 15

    emptywheel Retweeted David Corn

    For fuck sake people. Can we stop waggling this word so loosely?https://twitter.com/DavidCornDC/status/1018486304349343744 …

    emptywheel added,

    David CornVerified account @DavidCornDC
    Traitor. https://twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1018475507363352576 …
    6:26 AM - 15 Jul 2018
    • 36 Retweets
    • 311 Likes
    • F-35 Ejection System ✈ ⬆😀⬇👻 Rabbi Shai Held Stephen Judkins David Stieber has a spooky name now🌹🌵 Margaret Hewitt Wokey-on-the-Lowkey Andrew Baker Brian Nichols Matthew Cheney
    80 replies 36 retweets 311 likes
      1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 15

        emptywheel Retweeted Robert Farley

        For those asking how to refer to Paul, this thread is worthwhile. It actually IS really important to remember that we spy on Russia just like they spy on us.https://twitter.com/drfarls/status/1018477611180331008 …

        emptywheel added,

        Robert FarleyVerified account @drfarls
        There are ways to be grown up about this... Yes, we spy on the Russians. Yes, they spy on us. Yes, the Russians hunt spies. Yes, we hunt theirs. https://twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1018475507363352576 …
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      2. Jeff Stein‏Verified account @SpyTalker Jul 15
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Trump told CBS news today that the European Union was more of a foe than Russia.

        1 reply 0 retweets 10 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 15
        Replying to @SpyTalker

        Call Trump whatever you want. But Corn was calling Paul a traitor, not Trump. There's a great deal of information suggesting Trump did conspire with Russia. I'm aware of none showing Rand Paul did.

        6 replies 2 retweets 7 likes
      4. Tam Livesay‏ @SeattleTam Jul 15
        Replying to @emptywheel @SpyTalker

        Paul was on TV delivering Russia Today talking points this morning. Batting for the other team is generally considered at least traitorous if not actually treasonous.

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 15
        Replying to @SeattleTam @SpyTalker

        It's an RT talking point that we should protect our elections?

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Tam Livesay‏ @SeattleTam Jul 15
        Replying to @emptywheel @SpyTalker

        He countered the Russian election interference news with the classic Putin whataboutism: "what about Hillary interfering in tve Kremlin elections in 2011." A well-known textbook Kremlin talking point.

        1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 15
        Replying to @SeattleTam @SpyTalker

        Also critically important for people to understand that Putin believes that if they want to be even marginally intelligent on this stuff.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      8. WELCOME TO MANISTAN‏ @HollyCareBear Jul 15
        Replying to @emptywheel @SeattleTam @SpyTalker

        Don’t need to be Putin’s hype man to get that point across. If I was an American patriotic Senator I’d just say “Putin believes X.” He’s providing comfort to the enemy. I’m sure Putin was very happy with Paul’s performance.

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      9. WELCOME TO MANISTAN‏ @HollyCareBear Jul 15
        Replying to @HollyCareBear @emptywheel and

        Not only that, we all know he’d be singing a different tune if Russia aided the Dems, HRC was POTUS and there was evidence her entire family conspired to steal the WH. Maybe he’s not Russia & GOP over country but he’s definitely GOP over country and that seems traitorous too.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
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      2. Bill Garber‏ @BillGarber_ Jul 15
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Encouraging a foreign power to undermine our democracy. Even without the active collusion part, what’s an appropriate word then?

        2 replies 0 retweets 35 likes
      3. Bill Garber‏ @BillGarber_ Jul 15
        Replying to @BillGarber_ @emptywheel

        So, to be fair, I guess Corn is referring to Rand Paul, not Trump. Paul says we should defend the electoral system, but calls the investigation a witch hunt. Abetting Trump in undermining Mueller’s revealing the attack still gets pretty close to the line, doesn’t it?

        2 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
      4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 15
        Replying to @BillGarber_

        No. And the press is doing a piss poor job of clarifying how much of the Mueller investigation doesn't involve the targeted of Carter Page under FISA. Until they do better GOPers are going to believe that's what it's about.

        5 replies 4 retweets 24 likes
      5. Bill Garber‏ @BillGarber_ Jul 15
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Thanks for reply. Appreciate all your work to unpack things and fair to ask press to do heavy lifting. Very helpful. But very few operate there. I think GOPers are operating in PR space, not facts, and Corn is engaging them on that plane. Just calling out hypocrisy.

        0 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
      6. End of conversation
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      2. HeatChalk‏ @nowhitechalk Jul 15
        Replying to @emptywheel

        You are wrong to be so strident here. Mueller just released an indictment with the military affiliations of Russian hackers made plain. Do you really have legal expertise at the SCOTUS level to foresee no future facts or finding that treason and traitor are fitting labels?

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 15
        Replying to @nowhitechalk

        Against Rand Paul?

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. HeatChalk‏ @nowhitechalk Jul 15
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Your tweet referenced the word generally.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 15
        Replying to @nowhitechalk

        No. It referenced Corn calling Paul a traitor. They may well be time for using that word. Paul is not it.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      6.  🕊Scout  🦋‏ @about_scout Jul 15
        Replying to @emptywheel @nowhitechalk

        He sure quacks like one 😠

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      7. End of conversation
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      2. Kristin Rawls‏ @kristinrawls Jul 15
        Replying to @emptywheel

        So show the restraint the GOP is so well-known for with regard to the opposition party? Delete this.

        1 reply 1 retweet 12 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 15
        Replying to @kristinrawls

        If we're fighting for law and order in the US, we must adhere to the principle that we don't make accusations of criminal wrongdoing when there is not a shred of evidence to support them.

        2 replies 5 retweets 14 likes
      4. Kristin Rawls‏ @kristinrawls Jul 15
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Yeah, I don't think David is making a legal argument there or that his tone in the tweet is the death knell for law and order. And I'm not fighting for order anyway. I care about justice.

        1 reply 1 retweet 13 likes
      5. (((Erin Conroy)))‏ @chargrille Jul 15
        Replying to @kristinrawls @emptywheel

        This is seriously annoying, emptywheel. If you're worried about law & order, policing Rand Paul's words would be a better use of your time, because what he's doing and saying is actively eroding it.

        1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
      6. (((Erin Conroy)))‏ @chargrille Jul 15
        Replying to @chargrille @kristinrawls @emptywheel

        (((Erin Conroy))) Retweeted Molly McKew

        https://twitter.com/MollyMcKew/status/1018476342646624256 …

        (((Erin Conroy))) added,

        Molly McKewVerified account @MollyMcKew
        I am going to ask again why these people willing to trumpet the talking points and agenda of the Kremlin are given a platform on TV @CNNSotu Rand Paul personally taking credit for keeping Georgia out of NATO and preventing war with Russia is 100% pure Kremlin garbage https://twitter.com/MollyMcKew/status/1018474833728999424 …
        1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
      7. (((Erin Conroy)))‏ @chargrille Jul 15
        Replying to @chargrille @kristinrawls @emptywheel

        (((Erin Conroy))) Retweeted Grant Stern

        https://twitter.com/grantstern/status/1018519580434722819 …

        (((Erin Conroy))) added,

        Grant SternVerified account @grantstern
        Meet Sen. Rand Paul's foreign advisor Dimitri Simes. He hosted the big #TrumpRussia meeting of the minds at the Mayflower Hotel. Now, do you understand why the Kentucky Republican is such a pro-Kremlin kind of guy? https://thesternfacts.com/meet-putins-top-influencers-behind-russia-s-election-attack-on-america-852516c5a423 …
        1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
      8. (((Erin Conroy)))‏ @chargrille Jul 15
        Replying to @chargrille @kristinrawls @emptywheel

        (((Erin Conroy))) Retweeted Sarah Kendzior

        https://twitter.com/sarahkendzior/status/952289018506567680 …

        (((Erin Conroy))) added,

        Sarah KendziorVerified account @sarahkendzior
        In June, Senator McCain announced that Russia had created "a cyber weapon that can disrupt the US power grids and telecommunications infrastructure." And then it got worse. My latest on Russian cyber attacks: https://amp.fastcompany.com/40515682/the-other-scary-foreign-hacking-threat-trump-is-ignoring?__twitter_impression=true … pic.twitter.com/rBXilKoMUa
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