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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 14
      Replying to @emptywheel @NvrRyan @JohnWHuber

      Also I was the first person to write on that 4/26/17 opinion. I've tracked those opinions meticulously for 10 years. Virtually everything written about it six months later that people tend to read is hysterically bad writing.

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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 14
      Replying to @emptywheel @NvrRyan @JohnWHuber

      Moving on, when I asked about foreign spies, I wasn't asking abt cyber. I was talking about when other countries recruit Americans to betray their countries. Person to person. What should we do about it?

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    3. I'm Listening‏ @NvrRyan Jul 14
      Replying to @emptywheel @JohnWHuber

      Assuming the recruit DOES betray their country, that's treason. A rope is called for.

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    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 14
      Replying to @NvrRyan @JohnWHuber

      Sure. But how do we find that out? (Technically, it's only treason if he betrayed the country in wartime, but I'm a stickler there.)

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    5. I'm Listening‏ @NvrRyan Jul 14
      Replying to @emptywheel @JohnWHuber

      There is no one size fits all answer to that question. Interviewing the subject or his friends/co-workers, tracing the info back to source, surveillance of different sorts, etc

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    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 14
      Replying to @NvrRyan @JohnWHuber

      Okay. So if you suspect the guy has used past interviews to alert the adversary, and you've done some work w/friends/co-workers, then you're at surveillance, right? Reasonable?

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    7. I'm Listening‏ @NvrRyan Jul 14
      Replying to @emptywheel @JohnWHuber

      I was not aware they thought Page had "alerted" anyone. Before you jump to surveillance of a presidential campaign which is what a FISA on Page provided w the hops, you might have considered warning Trump when he hired him in March or April

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    8. I'm Listening‏ @NvrRyan Jul 14
      Replying to @NvrRyan @emptywheel @JohnWHuber

      That has been my problem all along. Out of the chute, they have seemingly treated POTUS with suspicion. When Page was hired in March, there was no Russian conspiracy in the air, other than that being plotted by Podesta as a campaign smear. Trump w/h/b given a defensive briefing

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 14
      Replying to @NvrRyan @JohnWHuber

      Well, there was Page. And they did nothing about him for another 6 months, after he had left the campaign bc his public activities had raised widespread concern. And there was Manafort.

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    10. I'm Listening‏ @NvrRyan Jul 14
      Replying to @emptywheel @JohnWHuber

      If Page is such a bad boy, why is he walking around free? They could have at least got him on a perjury trap. They're VERY good at that. Now Manafort, he is very definitely a self dealer. He joined the campaign to serve his own interests

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 14
      Replying to @NvrRyan @JohnWHuber

      Probably bc his surveillance has become so controversial.

      3:37 PM - 14 Jul 2018
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        1. encino mane‏ @plasticscandal Jul 14
          Replying to @emptywheel @NvrRyan @JohnWHuber

          Why are you engaging with this guy?

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        1. I'm Listening‏ @NvrRyan Jul 14
          Replying to @emptywheel @JohnWHuber

          Will also poke around your blog more when I have time. I do enjoy reading other points of view and you apparently have a good reputation. I also gleaned you didn't buy into Trump/Russia at start but now do based on your research, etc. That intrigues me

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        1. I'm Listening‏ @NvrRyan Jul 14
          Replying to @emptywheel @JohnWHuber

          I thank you for your time. You have suggested some things I wasn't aware of, though my faith in Gen Flynn remains unshaken. I am aware of the Turkey stuff/Gulen & believe he would never betray this country to Russia. I happen to believe we s/h stayed out of Syria from start.

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