Mueller's indictment just put two more nails in the coffin of the Steele dossier's credibility:
1. Aleksej Gubarev - supposedly helped hack DNC
Not indicted
2. Michael Cohen - supposedly went to Europe to "pay off" hackers
Russian intelligence officers need paying off?
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Moving on, when I asked about foreign spies, I wasn't asking abt cyber. I was talking about when other countries recruit Americans to betray their countries. Person to person. What should we do about it?
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Assuming the recruit DOES betray their country, that's treason. A rope is called for.
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Sure. But how do we find that out? (Technically, it's only treason if he betrayed the country in wartime, but I'm a stickler there.)
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There is no one size fits all answer to that question. Interviewing the subject or his friends/co-workers, tracing the info back to source, surveillance of different sorts, etc
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Okay. So if you suspect the guy has used past interviews to alert the adversary, and you've done some work w/friends/co-workers, then you're at surveillance, right? Reasonable?
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I was not aware they thought Page had "alerted" anyone. Before you jump to surveillance of a presidential campaign which is what a FISA on Page provided w the hops, you might have considered warning Trump when he hired him in March or April
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That has been my problem all along. Out of the chute, they have seemingly treated POTUS with suspicion. When Page was hired in March, there was no Russian conspiracy in the air, other than that being plotted by Podesta as a campaign smear. Trump w/h/b given a defensive briefing
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Well, there was Page. And they did nothing about him for another 6 months, after he had left the campaign bc his public activities had raised widespread concern. And there was Manafort.
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I've skimmed the report myself and read the specifics/footnote on p 84 (or 87?) about the contractors working in the database w little to no supervision
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Different contractors. When I raised contractors I meant the people who get paid for information who are included in most individual FISA applications, and whose credibility is assessed in large part by past track record.
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