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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 13

      My DMs are full of people saying "rat-fucker!!!" "blowjob!!!!" This is why they don't let me talk about Roger Stone (or Lee Stranahan) on live TV, I guess.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 13

      Also what I SHOULD have added on TV is that I've heard from a source (apparently people WILL still talk with me) who said the Russians couldn't have tampered with Hillary's analytics, bc any tampering would have been regarded as an outlier. So *just* a theft of her eyes and ears.

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        2. Jonathon Rubin‏ @jbrjake Jul 13
          Replying to @emptywheel

          What they could have done is used her analytics to figure out how they could target ads to fuck with turnout in a way where her model wouldn’t detect what was happening—an adversarial example attack in machine learning parlance.

          2 replies 35 retweets 178 likes
        3. Jonathon Rubin‏ @jbrjake Jul 13
          Replying to @jbrjake @emptywheel

          To expand a bit: you could run scenarios against her data to find situations where it would return the same results for different input. Brute-force detect edge cases where her model would fail. Like where to run ads in Wisconsin so that her model wouldn’t see support softening.

          15 replies 72 retweets 265 likes
        4. Emily A.‏ @emzorbit Jul 13
          Replying to @jbrjake @emptywheel

          I’m not a Sec-anything person but do you mean ads like these?pic.twitter.com/e0YTVEh8xR

          3 replies 16 retweets 57 likes
        5. Emily A.‏ @emzorbit Jul 13
          Replying to @emzorbit @jbrjake @emptywheel

          Also, Marcy, your comment about Hillary’s analytics and plans on Chris Hayes’ show tonight made me think of this paragraph from a Bloomberg article from Nov. 2016. In other interviews Trump actually credits Manafort with helping him win MI and WI.pic.twitter.com/3BRBarM8xv

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        6. Emily A.‏ @emzorbit Jul 13
          Replying to @emzorbit @jbrjake @emptywheel

          Could the theft in Sept. be connected to Manafort’s late-in-the-game advice to target those swing states?

          0 replies 2 retweets 16 likes
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        2. celt...‏ @prairiemonk1 Jul 13
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Not tampered with but data they would have given to the trump campaign?

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 13
          Replying to @prairiemonk1

          My guess is that's why it's in there, they introduce it but don't say what happened to it.

          0 replies 2 retweets 17 likes
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        1. Mary Angela  🍏‏ @MaryAngelaPerna Jul 13
          Replying to @emptywheel

          hey all! make SURE you follow the brilliant, Marcy Wheeler on all of this. & read @emptywheel every damn day. you were GREAT on @chrislhayes just now. Chris will agree!

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        1. leveller‏ @lib_ertarian_ Jul 13
          Replying to @emptywheel

          it seems her campaign viewed reports from field canvassers in rust belt states as outliers too, so it still seems that she blew most of her lead on her own. Also, and lest we forget, Bernie would have won.

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        2. It's people! Pumpkin spice is people!‏ @znmeb Jul 13
          Replying to @emptywheel

          What I infer from your timeline is that the DNC, Clinton herself, Podesta, and probably Bernie's organization were totally compromised, probably before any of the time points we've seen so far.

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        3. It's people! Pumpkin spice is people!‏ @znmeb Jul 13
          Replying to @znmeb @emptywheel

          Then there's the Anthony Weiner episode. Lord only know what was planted on his laptop and by whom.

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        4. Connie Rodebaugh‏ @connie_rodeconn Jul 13
          Replying to @znmeb @emptywheel

          If someone planted something, the man is in jail serving time!

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        1. Terry Banet‏ @tebsf Jul 13
          Replying to @emptywheel

          They could have passed data to Parscale.

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        1. Emily A.‏ @emzorbit Jul 13
          Replying to @emptywheel

          I thought you were awesome!

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        2. TBashII‏ @RukhnamaLives Jul 13
          Replying to @emptywheel

          why not? tampering could be subtle---few percent here and there, few thousand voters here and there, etc..

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        3. Jevaun‏ @jevaun Jul 14
          Replying to @RukhnamaLives @emptywheel

          @mikefarb1 goes into EXTENSIVE detail on exactly this...

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        4. TBashII‏ @RukhnamaLives Jul 14
          Replying to @jevaun @emptywheel @mikefarb1

          I don't think he's a reliable source for a number of reasons but agree that anyone flagging potential vote tampering (or voter roll tampering, etc) early on definitely deserved to be listened to..

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        1. danostrowski‏ @danostrowski Jul 13
          Replying to @emptywheel

          That doesn't really check out. Analytics is just stats counting at the end of the day and you can make it as subtle or dramatic as you like if you have the keys to the car.

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        1. Sajizzle‏ @Sajizzle Jul 13
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Couldn't they just tamper enough so it didn't seem like an outlier...?

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        1. __josh‏ @__josh Jul 13
          Replying to @emptywheel

          I'd like to see this refuted with evidence at some point. Mook was ignoring his field operatives who were begging for a different ground game in WI, MI, PA etc. Would they even realize what an outlier looked like?

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