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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 9

    Something I've been wondering about Michael Cohen. Trump (at least publicly) soured on Cohen after he was raided, allegedly bc he was worried Cohen was wearing a wire. But Trump ALSO saw what was in Cohen's files. Wonder if he saw CYA files?

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      2. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror Jul 9
        Replying to @emptywheel

        if trump thought cohen had something truly damaging on him (i.e. something more than just "trump paid off this or that woman to keep quiet about an affair"), don't you think he'd treat cohen differently?

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 9
        Replying to @empiricalerror

        He didn't treat Flynn differently. Flynn flipped for precisely the same reason Cohen is considering it, bc he felt betrayed.

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      4. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror Jul 9
        Replying to @emptywheel

        flynn wasn't in trump's orbit long enough to know much. and trump tried to get comey to lay off flynn. trump still speaks favorably of flynn.

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      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 9
        Replying to @empiricalerror

        I'm not sure how that makes your point. Both men felt/feel betrayed, regardless of all the nice things Trump now says to write off Flynn's behavior as something he didn't order hidden. But my original Q was about something else.

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      6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jul 9
        Replying to @emptywheel @empiricalerror

        That is, is Trump betraying Cohen, even beyond what he did with Flynn, bc he saw something in his files that pissed him off? That made him think Cohen was disloyal.

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      2. Claudia Kincaid‏ @ClaudiaKincaid_ Jul 9
        Replying to @emptywheel

        What are CYA files? (I know what the acronym stands for - just not sure what you mean in this context.)

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      3. Stephan Sailor‏ @StephanSailor Jul 9
        Replying to @ClaudiaKincaid_ @emptywheel

        In this context, CYA refers to any tangible proof Trump committed crimes that Cohen has collected over the years, so that he can try to "cover his ass" by threatening to release incriminating materials he had purposefully and specifically held on to.

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      4.  🇺🇲 Gw 👻i L 🌐, MD  🇺🇲‏ @GwailoMD Jul 9
        Replying to @StephanSailor @ClaudiaKincaid_ @emptywheel

        I see. So if Trump is screwed by the info either way, might as well punish Cohen for his disloyalty?

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      5. Stephan Sailor‏ @StephanSailor Jul 9
        Replying to @GwailoMD @ClaudiaKincaid_ @emptywheel

        Exactly, and more, cast him as being crooked from the start, ingratiating himself with Trump for the (now revealed!) purpose of collecting whatever information he could use to later blackmail the POTUS, just like Stormy, etc.

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      6. Claudia Kincaid‏ @ClaudiaKincaid_ Jul 10
        Replying to @StephanSailor @GwailoMD @emptywheel

        Thanks to all of you. I also have a theory that Trump & Co extorted people (including public officials) over the years — strengthened by Peter Gleason’s attempted intervention in this case. I would think that evidence likely to be in Cohen’s files if I am right.

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      1. Stephen Rochester‏ @SBRochester Jul 9
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Didn’t he also call Cohen directly after the raid? Doesn’t sound like simone who was worried about a wire:http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/383093-trump-called-cohen-amid-legal-battle-on-fbi-raid-report …

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      1. Lard of Dorkness‏ @LardFDorkness Jul 9
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Lard of Dorkness Retweeted emptywheel

        Marcy, I've also been wondering about this: Cohen was in Mar-A-Lago on March 7th. Cohen was raided on April 9th. What if Cohen was already dead to rights and they gave him heads up about raid so he'd wear a wire on March 7th as part of pre-raid plea deal?https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/1016404603389333505 …

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        emptywheel @emptywheel
        Something I've been wondering about Michael Cohen. Trump (at least publicly) soured on Cohen after he was raided, allegedly bc he was worried Cohen was wearing a wire. But Trump ALSO saw what was in Cohen's files. Wonder if he saw CYA files?
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      1. PR Lodestar‏ @PR_twit Jul 9
        Replying to @emptywheel

        How did he see what was in Cohen's files? I mean, they had the Special Master go through everything but I didn't think the Trump lawyers were able to see it all yet.

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      2. Off the Cuff‏ @Putthechainonit Jul 9
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Do you mean files (and/recordings) Cohen had to cover Cohen’s ass?

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      3. georgeporge‏ @georgeporge5 Jul 9
        Replying to @Putthechainonit @emptywheel

        That's what I believe

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      1. Space Force Panda‏ @TrashPandaFTW Jul 9
        Replying to @emptywheel

        i think he's just being delusional like with the NK "contract" that he keeps tweeting about

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      2. HistoryFanatic‏ @sanjep Jul 9
        Replying to @emptywheel

        So Don thinks he’s safe?

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      3. georgeporge‏ @georgeporge5 Jul 9
        Replying to @sanjep @emptywheel

        The opposite

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      2. Ron “Weak Stomach” Mexico‏ @Blobfishissexy Jul 9
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I have no idea what “but trump also saw what was in Cohen’s files” is referring to

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