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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 26
      Replying to @ColonelDax1

      Where did I say anything ad hom about Axe? The ONLY description OF HIM I made was "chief political advisor"? Is that not accurate, or are you just unsure what ad hom is?

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    2. Colonel Dax‏ @ColonelDax1 Jun 26
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Ad hominem , short for argumentum ad hominem, is a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 26
      Replying to @ColonelDax1

      GREAT! You can cut and paste. We're making PROGRESS!!!!!! Now explain why referring to Axe as "chief political advisor" is ad hom. See if you can find a cut and paste to answer that.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. Colonel Dax‏ @ColonelDax1 Jun 26
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Read your tweets. Take out everything that is an attack on Axelrod as a person and see what's left.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 26
      Replying to @ColonelDax1

      But you have yet to point to ANYTHING that IS an attack on him. The ONLY reference I made to him was as chief political advisor, which is 1) true 2) neutral wrt character.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Colonel Dax‏ @ColonelDax1 Jun 26
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Read your tweet. Axlerod is making a point about X, and your response to his tweet is essentially "This comment is coming from the loser who did Y". There's nothing in your tweet about the substance of his argument.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 26
      Replying to @ColonelDax1

      Let me explain this slowly for you, bc you're struggling. 1) Axe made a comment abt necessity of civility. 2) Axe largely chose the policy of civility and bipartisanship that Obama employed. 3) That policy has outcomes that can be measured.

      2 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
    8. Colonel Dax‏ @ColonelDax1 Jun 26
      Replying to @emptywheel

      I don't see where he made a general point about civility. What I see, is that he made a specific point about a specific situation. He's saying that what happened with Sarah was more politically beneficial to Reps than Dems.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 26
      Replying to @ColonelDax1

      Great! Which is why his past judgments about what is political helpful are perfectly on point! And those past judgments ... were wrong.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 26
      Replying to @ColonelDax1

      I guess where we disagree is in discounting people's track record in assessing their wisdom on certain issues.

      8:03 AM - 26 Jun 2018
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        1. Colonel Dax‏ @ColonelDax1 Jun 26
          Replying to @emptywheel

          The issue for me is focusing on their wisdom vs focusing on the substance of their argument. Anyhow, thanks for taking the time to respond. I'm appreciative. :)

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