It is my belief that the Mueller probe is coming to a very imminent head. And also that RU will try to impose very substantial costs on the US when that happens. Spiking fossil fuel costs would be part of it.https://twitter.com/EnergzdEconomy/status/1010519211662331904 …
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Also, while both are indeed nation states - in reality, russia is a third world s*hole in every regard other than the nukes. So yes, for poot to have been able to screw w/ our democracy - that’s like taking out a hi-tech spy satellite w/ a fertilizer IED. So yeah, assymetry.
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That logic is remarkable: The richest nation in the world doesn't lock its door and therefore a burglar coming in it is asymmetric and particularly evil, even if they do the same? Nope. I mean, I get that people like to say that. It's dumb tho.
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Not sure what you’re talking about, honest. Where the “evil” part came from; was never mentioned or implied. I was talking strictly about the means and effeciencies. What they did in 2016 was crude, low-tech and cheap - but it achieved what nukes could not have. Hence IED analogy
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Except we also use info warfare, including against RU.
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OK, you seem to be continuing the conversation we had 2 weeks ago. No, in this one I was not at all implying that we are “better”, less evil, more righteous etc. I simply chimed in to say to somebody, in this new thread, that yes, you are right- russia has means to mess with us.
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My point was that RF’s “messing with us” has been so amazingly successful that there is not too much more they can do to “us.” They can do lots to Trump, and as
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Woah. That is quite a statement. Are you 100% sure you really mean what you seem to be saying? “not too much more they can do to us”, really? ok, you may be saying - “VVP didn’t do much to us that we hadn’t done to ourselves... He just threw a match”. Sure. 1/2
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Regardless, don’t want to distract anyone from your main thesis - it’s going to suck real bad for all of us, yes.
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But that’s the whole point. Putin has found some crude, cheap, very low-tech but effective ways of f-ing w/ the “sole remaining superpower”. Without having to use his own superpower-grade means - that would trigger a symmetrical response.
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