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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Josh Gerstein‏Verified account @joshgerstein Jun 15

      Josh Gerstein Retweeted Josh Marshall

      Nothing more damning than to be called a bothsideser or whataboutist, but you won't get me to agree it's fine for an official to do ALL his/her business on a personal, private email account. Perhaps a venial sin and not a cardinal one. That said....https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1007479591227805698 …

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      Josh MarshallVerified account @joshtpm
      As part of doctrinal bothsidesism were supposed to pretend the Clinton email probe was a serious matter. It was at best sloppy handling of a limited amount of classified material. At most, and that’s a stretch. Investigators had already been investigating it for more than ...
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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 15
      Replying to @joshgerstein

      I'm with you. But then I recognize that 90% of the people who comment on this don't account for clear evidence this was bid to avoid transparency/record-keeping.

      4 replies 1 retweet 6 likes
    3. Snollygoster-Buster‏ @QuockerWodging Jun 15
      Replying to @emptywheel @joshgerstein

      That was my assumption - until the FBI unearthed the exact chain of causality that led to this setup. We now know the entire thing was based on her desire not to have to carry two separate phones that used different security protocols to access emails.

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 15
      Replying to @QuockerWodging @joshgerstein

      WHOOOOOAAAAAA. Except that she carried two phones. So, no, that was a lie.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Snollygoster-Buster‏ @QuockerWodging Jun 15
      Replying to @emptywheel @joshgerstein

      Do you understand the difference between sometimes carrying two devices, and always having to carry two devices everywhere and configure them for exclusively different uses? Or are you just being purposefully obtuse?

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 15
      Replying to @QuockerWodging @joshgerstein

      Yeah, and I understand Hillary did the latter, plus her iPad. That excuse was totally bullshit.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Snollygoster-Buster‏ @QuockerWodging Jun 15
      Replying to @emptywheel @joshgerstein

      Interesting - can you cite evidence on that? I'm not sure how it could even work; since she only had her private e-mail, what exactly do you mean in saying she had a secure device devoted exclusively to accessing her (non-existent) state dept email address?

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 15
      Replying to @QuockerWodging @joshgerstein

      I don't believe I said that. The record shows she carried two phones AND an iPad, the latter of which she also used to access email.

      1:33 PM - 15 Jun 2018
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        2. Snollygoster-Buster‏ @QuockerWodging Jun 15
          Replying to @emptywheel @joshgerstein

          Exactly, and I'm saying "Sometimes carrying two phones and an iPad" is not the same as "You have to carry two phones at all times, and make sure one phone is exclusively used for work, while other is exclusively used for personal communications." That was the State Dept's stance.

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        3. Snollygoster-Buster‏ @QuockerWodging Jun 15
          Replying to @QuockerWodging @emptywheel @joshgerstein

          What confused me was you just said, two tweets up, that the latter was the case - she did carry two phones at all times, and did have them set up as the State Dept proposed, with one exclusively dedicated to work. It now seems you're backtracking, or you misunderstood.

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