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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror Jun 11
      Replying to @emptywheel @adamentous

      👀https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4894307,00.html …

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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 11
      Replying to @empiricalerror

      You're suggesting they didn't need unmasking to discover it bc it leaked in Israel afterwards, or suggesting it leaked in Israel bc it was unmasked? Adding: my larger point is there seems to be a continuity bt 2017 unmasking panic and 2015 Bibi unmasking panic.

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    3. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror Jun 11
      Replying to @emptywheel

      i'm suggesting the unmasking panic is probably not about this particular episode (the cohen visit), but rather about the pre-inauguration UN machinations.

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    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 11
      Replying to @empiricalerror

      These machinations, which this same article predicts 5 days before they happened?? Again, I'm making a larger point abt probable continuity in Bibi unmasking panic, w/a range of inappropriate outreach.pic.twitter.com/ewMwOm7IS0

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    5. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror Jun 11
      Replying to @emptywheel

      perhaps you could better explain why you think these episodes induced "panic" and whether it was genuine panic as opposed to manufactured outrage to deflect and distract. i guess your "larger point" is lost on me.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 11
      Replying to @empiricalerror

      In more verbose contexts I have referred to it as a "pseudo-scandal." https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/05/19/did-nunes-unmasking-panic-betray-knowledge-of-the-collusion-with-the-saudis-and-emirates/ … The panic [used with sarcasm] is interesting to me bc it suggests Trump & Nunes were more worried abt certain non-RU comms being discovered than Ru ones.

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    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 11
      Replying to @emptywheel @empiricalerror

      To the extent that we continue to map the Israeli-KSA-UAE activities that 1) are a continuation of earlier efforts to kill JCPOA 2) demonstrate new violations of norms that might be embarrassing if surveilled, I'm interested in that. YMMV

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    8. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror Jun 11
      Replying to @emptywheel

      fair enough. i still don't understand though: are trump & nunes genuinely worried about (aka real panic) or not (aka pseudo-scandal, manufactured outrage, panic used w/ sarcasm)? which is it? your response suggests... both?

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 11
      Replying to @empiricalerror

      Given the 2015 parallel (that is, Bibi working directly w/GOP MoCs to undercut JPCOA), I think they are genuinely upset the comms got read.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    10. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 11
      Replying to @emptywheel @empiricalerror

      And the "panic," such as it exists, suggests concern that the GOP will be held accountable for interactions that, were it any other country, might merit a legal investigation (and might here, only insofar as they get sucked into RU investigation).

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 11
      Replying to @emptywheel @empiricalerror

      https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/04/03/nunes-so-called-bibi-netanyahu-precedent/ …

      12:01 PM - 11 Jun 2018
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        1. Devastating McDee‏ @devdotcom Jun 11
          Replying to @emptywheel @empiricalerror

          For Trump's campaign and transition interactions with Israel, is this a FARA violation if none of them got money from Israel or Gulf States?

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