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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 11

    Sometimes I wonder which it'd be harder for Mueller to implicate in illegal influence peddling of Trump's people: Israel or the NRA?https://www.mcclatchydc.com/latest-news/article212756749.html …

    6:29 AM - 11 Jun 2018
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      2. Joel‏ @JFreimuth Jun 11
        Replying to @emptywheel

        You can't blame Russia or Israel or even the nra for advancing their agenda. We elected him. We elected the leaders that refuse to hold him accountable. We weren't duped or misled. We knew who and what trump was. He didn't win the popular vote. He won the election. We are guilty.

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      3. Vote November 6th‏ @swiley1983 Jun 11
        Replying to @JFreimuth @emptywheel

        So no one who voted for him was persuaded by a lie?

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      4. Joel‏ @JFreimuth Jun 11
        Replying to @swiley1983 @emptywheel

        Of course, but not 60 million were persuaded by a lie. Every campaign has lies. "Disinformation campaigns" are hardly new things. Is it your position that trump was not on full display throughout the campaign?

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      5. Vote November 6th‏ @swiley1983 Jun 11
        Replying to @JFreimuth @emptywheel

        He was on "full display" as a huckster. Lies work on malleable minds - that's why liars tell them. They only needed to persuade 40-70k spread between 3 states to vote Trump, Stein, or not vote. What's your estimate on the number of dupes?

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      6. Joel‏ @JFreimuth Jun 11
        Replying to @swiley1983 @emptywheel

        I think there are many different reasons people lie, but agree trump is a con man. Your question is a good one. Perhaps you could persuade 1% to vote for you on lies so that would, aggregate, be 1.2m. Enough to cover the spread. Perhaps more. What do you think?

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      7. Joel‏ @JFreimuth Jun 11
        Replying to @JFreimuth @swiley1983 @emptywheel

        And, just to add, he was on display as more than a huckster. Every one of his ugly tendencies was evident during the campaign.

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      1. Sean Moore- I'll Remember on the 6th of Nov‏ @soxinky Jun 11
        Replying to @emptywheel @LOLGOP

        i fully expect to see the attacking arm of the NRA step up its activities in coming weeks as more and more of these connections are exposed. You see it already happening when they went after @Alyssa_Milano last week. Seems pretty clear SOMETHING went down between RUS and NRA.

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      1. PostimusMaximus‏ @PostimusMaximus Jun 11
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Well, we'll find out.

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      1. walletninja‏ @Jacket_Spangler Jun 11
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Both seem pretty easy

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      1. djkocisi politics‏ @djkocisi2 Jun 11
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Def the NRA. Don Jr was sloshing around with Alexander Torshin a literally at an NRA event. And Torshin was being surveilled by Spain for years. And they are so scared of turning over their books because they know it’s filled with ill gotten money.

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      1. Lionel Richards‏ @r15blais Jun 11
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Traitorous NRA will be sorry some day for all the guns they've put in the hands of Americans ...

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      1.  🇺🇲 Gw 👻i L 🌐, MD  🇺🇲‏ @GwailoMD Jun 11
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Kinda one and the same. Israel has a VERY political group of emigres from the USSR. My understanding is that they tend to be very right-wing, on balance. We used to collect coins back in Sunday school for them as charity before the USSR collapsed.

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