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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror Jun 10
      Replying to @emptywheel @0xdeadbabe

      i think you're overestimating trump's degree of comprehension of and interest in the syria situation by about 10,000 %.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 10
      Replying to @empiricalerror @0xdeadbabe

      how about "I think the naive idiots surrounding Trump have been convinced Putin can be part of a *solution* in Syria, that doesn't so much involve ISIS as it involves stabilizing under Assad or closely linked RU client successor"?

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror Jun 10
      Replying to @emptywheel @0xdeadbabe

      fine by me. none of which, to circle back, implies russian leverage over trump.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 10
      Replying to @empiricalerror @0xdeadbabe

      I guess I'm not clear: Are you questioning that they have leverage over him or that they would choose to use it?

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 10
      Replying to @emptywheel @empiricalerror @0xdeadbabe

      Though ... let's go back: the scandal immediately surrounding the Flynn plea was whether Trump had agreed to work with Putin on Syria before or after the election. That's an interesting detail.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    6. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror Jun 10
      Replying to @emptywheel @0xdeadbabe

      uh, they openly campaigned on that position, so how does that imply leverage?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 10
      Replying to @empiricalerror @0xdeadbabe

      Thanks, that's a point I've made repeatedly. But has he done that?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror Jun 10
      Replying to @emptywheel @0xdeadbabe

      has he done what?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 10
      Replying to @empiricalerror @0xdeadbabe

      Delivered on his promised better RU-US relations?

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror Jun 10
      Replying to @emptywheel @0xdeadbabe

      no, for obvious reasons he hasn't. so what? that doesn't give putin leverage.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 10
      Replying to @empiricalerror @0xdeadbabe

      So you think Putin has no leverage over Trump?

      1:37 PM - 10 Jun 2018
      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror Jun 10
          Replying to @emptywheel @0xdeadbabe

          marcy. not again. please. read what i said, don't put words in my mouth. else this ends here and now.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 10
          Replying to @empiricalerror @0xdeadbabe

          It was a question. I'm actually NOT sure what you're saying. You SEEM to have just suggested that many countries have at least tried to trade decisions that help Trump/his family businesses in exchange for US policy. Am I misstating that, bc I don't mean to.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror Jun 10
          Replying to @emptywheel @0xdeadbabe

          it's a question i've already answered, explicitly and unambiguously.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 10
          Replying to @empiricalerror @0xdeadbabe

          emptywheel Retweeted ǝʌɐp

          Here? I'm trying to distinguish what IS your clear stance: that Trump would be pro-RU no matter what (with no leverage), from whether or not you think RU does have leverage -- I'm not sure where you've stated that.https://twitter.com/empiricalerror/status/1005895973409783811 …

          emptywheel added,

          ǝʌɐp @empiricalerror
          why is it that people think putin *must* have something on trump to make trump spout the stupid shit he does? why can't it be that trump says and does these things simply because he's an ignorant, reactionary dumbfuck who admires authoritarian nationalists?
          3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror Jun 10
          Replying to @emptywheel @0xdeadbabe

          ǝʌɐp Retweeted ǝʌɐp

          https://twitter.com/empiricalerror/status/1005910877483171843 …

          ǝʌɐp added,

          ǝʌɐp @empiricalerror
          Replying to @emptywheel @0xdeadbabe
          sure, they might have something they could leverage. but, idk, dozens of others would have similar leverage, too.
          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        7. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror Jun 10
          Replying to @empiricalerror @emptywheel @0xdeadbabe

          ǝʌɐp Retweeted ǝʌɐp

          https://twitter.com/empiricalerror/status/1005909933680930816 …

          ǝʌɐp added,

          ǝʌɐp @empiricalerror
          Replying to @emptywheel @0xdeadbabe
          i'm questioning the stance that *only* some great leverage over trump can explain trump's behavior towards russia / putin and towards nominal allies.
          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        8. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror Jun 10
          Replying to @empiricalerror @emptywheel @0xdeadbabe

          ^that clear enough?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 10
          Replying to @empiricalerror @0xdeadbabe

          emptywheel Retweeted emptywheel

          I believe that's what I reiterated here:https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/1005914104240967680 …

          emptywheel added,

          emptywheel @emptywheel
          Replying to @empiricalerror @0xdeadbabe
          Here? I'm trying to distinguish what IS your clear stance: that Trump would be pro-RU no matter what (with no leverage), from whether or not you think RU does have leverage -- I'm not sure where you've stated that. https://twitter.com/empiricalerror/status/1005895973409783811 …
          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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