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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 10
      Replying to @emptywheel @empiricalerror @0xdeadbabe

      I also think Putin is using coded language he has used in the past, including but not limited to terrorism.

      1 reply 1 retweet 6 likes
    2. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror Jun 10
      Replying to @emptywheel @0xdeadbabe

      i think you're touching on an important point wrt terrorism, although i assume our reads differ here, too.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 10
      Replying to @empiricalerror @0xdeadbabe

      How so?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror Jun 10
      Replying to @emptywheel @0xdeadbabe

      ǝʌɐp Retweeted ǝʌɐp

      https://twitter.com/empiricalerror/status/1005906892307214336 …

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      ǝʌɐp @empiricalerror
      Replying to @empiricalerror @emptywheel @0xdeadbabe
      putin's outwardly "tough" stance on RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM is ONE REASON trump is so enamored with him.
      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror Jun 10
      Replying to @empiricalerror @emptywheel @0xdeadbabe

      i think trump views putin / russia as essential in "solving" the terrorism problem, more essential than any other international tough guys, including the saudis or bibi.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 10
      Replying to @empiricalerror @0xdeadbabe

      I think Trump believes Putin can be part of a "solution" in Syria, that doesn't so much involve ISIS as it involves stabilizing under Assad or closely linked RU client successor.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror Jun 10
      Replying to @emptywheel @0xdeadbabe

      i think you're overestimating trump's degree of comprehension of and interest in the syria situation by about 10,000 %.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 10
      Replying to @empiricalerror @0xdeadbabe

      how about "I think the naive idiots surrounding Trump have been convinced Putin can be part of a *solution* in Syria, that doesn't so much involve ISIS as it involves stabilizing under Assad or closely linked RU client successor"?

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    9. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror Jun 10
      Replying to @emptywheel @0xdeadbabe

      fine by me. none of which, to circle back, implies russian leverage over trump.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 10
      Replying to @empiricalerror @0xdeadbabe

      I guess I'm not clear: Are you questioning that they have leverage over him or that they would choose to use it?

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 10
      Replying to @emptywheel @empiricalerror @0xdeadbabe

      Though ... let's go back: the scandal immediately surrounding the Flynn plea was whether Trump had agreed to work with Putin on Syria before or after the election. That's an interesting detail.

      1:29 PM - 10 Jun 2018
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        2. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror Jun 10
          Replying to @emptywheel @0xdeadbabe

          uh, they openly campaigned on that position, so how does that imply leverage?

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 10
          Replying to @empiricalerror @0xdeadbabe

          Thanks, that's a point I've made repeatedly. But has he done that?

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        4. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror Jun 10
          Replying to @emptywheel @0xdeadbabe

          has he done what?

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 10
          Replying to @empiricalerror @0xdeadbabe

          Delivered on his promised better RU-US relations?

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror Jun 10
          Replying to @emptywheel @0xdeadbabe

          no, for obvious reasons he hasn't. so what? that doesn't give putin leverage.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 10
          Replying to @empiricalerror @0xdeadbabe

          So you think Putin has no leverage over Trump?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror Jun 10
          Replying to @emptywheel @0xdeadbabe

          marcy. not again. please. read what i said, don't put words in my mouth. else this ends here and now.

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        9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 10
          Replying to @empiricalerror @0xdeadbabe

          It was a question. I'm actually NOT sure what you're saying. You SEEM to have just suggested that many countries have at least tried to trade decisions that help Trump/his family businesses in exchange for US policy. Am I misstating that, bc I don't mean to.

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