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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 8

      I left the house 1.5 hours ago and Manafort was facing charges that would put him in prison for life. I'm back now and Manafort is facing charges that would put him in prison for life. There's a lot of hot air being generated over what has happened in last 1.5 hours.

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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 8

      This superseding seems to be a tactical move, in advance of Manafort filing his response to Mueller's motion to revoke bail today. It's a lot more obvious he was suborning perjury if Kilimnik is on the indictment.

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    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 8

      But Manafort has likely been shopping for the most fashionable Italian orange striped jumpsuit anyway, given the motion to revoke bail.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 8

      Last I checked Kilimnik was in Russia. Even if RU had an extradition treaty with us, my guess is Vladimir Putin is not going to extradite Kilimnik so long as Trump keeps trying to get RU back in the G-8.

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        1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 8

          Understand; a lot of the press has an incentive to pump up every Mueller move bc that's what sells advertising, even if the significance is more modest.

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        2. stillbevens‏ @stillbevens Jun 8
          Replying to @emptywheel

          this is why I lol to myself when the dem pundits try to brag about the number of indictments/pleas.. if you want to judge it by how many actually showed up in court the count is like, 5

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 8
          Replying to @stillbevens

          I think you're confusing guilty pleas with indictments. And by confusing that you're ignoring cooperating witnesses, which at this stage of an investigation are significantly more important than number of indictments.

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        4. stillbevens‏ @stillbevens Jun 8
          Replying to @emptywheel

          true, but I guess my point (and yours?) is there's better metrics than just counting indictments

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 8
          Replying to @stillbevens

          And by any legit measure Mueller has laid the ground work for a very serious legal case.

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        2.  🌲 🌲 Andy from Oregon  🌲 🌲‏ @AndrewFmOregon Jun 8
          Replying to @mrstephencamp @emptywheel

          In an early indictment of Manafort, Mueller noted in a footnote that he provided proof of his ties to RU intelligence under seal.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 8
          Replying to @AndrewFmOregon @mrstephencamp

          He did?

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        4.  🌲 🌲 Andy from Oregon  🌲 🌲‏ @AndrewFmOregon Jun 8
          Replying to @emptywheel @mrstephencamp

          These ties weren’t vestiges of a distant past, but were said to be active through 2016. In a footnote, Mueller asked for permission to submit evidence substantiating the charge in a sealed filing.https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/the-astonishing-tale-of-the-man-mueller-calls-person-a/562217/ …

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        6.  🌲 🌲 Andy from Oregon  🌲 🌲‏ @AndrewFmOregon Jun 8
          Replying to @AndrewFmOregon @emptywheel @mrstephencamp

          Apologies, in sentencing memo of Van Der Zwaan.. not in previous indictment of Manafort. My bad.

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        7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jun 8
          Replying to @AndrewFmOregon @mrstephencamp

          This footnote? Where does it say that?pic.twitter.com/GHsrFGoqAp

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        1. Matthew Blakeway‏ @MatthewBlakeway Jun 9
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          His extradition is irrelevant. He wants to live in Kiev where his friends and family are and he is forced to live in Moscow. He can never travel again. Kilimnik's circumstances just got a lot worse, even if he never appears in an American court. His is a kind of prison sentence.

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        1. David Liu‏ @lookoutcoffee Jun 8
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          What’s needed is Batman to kidnap him and bring him back to Gotham err DC

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        1. Angry Mob Votes November 6th‏ @FlKelvin77 Jun 8
          Replying to @emptywheel

          It means if Kilimnik is caught traveling to a country that has extradition with the US he is going to be up $hit creek. Also, not a good look for Trump's former campaign manager to have conspired against the US with a former Russian intelligence officer.

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        2.  🌲 🌲 Andy from Oregon  🌲 🌲‏ @AndrewFmOregon Jun 8
          Replying to @emptywheel

          "In another move seeming to hinder Mr. Mueller’s investigation, Ukrainian law enforcement allowed a potential witness to possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia to leave for Russia, putting him out of reach for questioning."https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/02/world/europe/ukraine-mueller-manafort-missiles.html …

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        3.  🌲 🌲 Andy from Oregon  🌲 🌲‏ @AndrewFmOregon Jun 8
          Replying to @AndrewFmOregon @emptywheel

          "The special counsel’s office has identified the man, Konstantin V. Kilimnik, Mr. Manafort’s former office manager in Kiev, as tied to a Russian intelligence agency. Mr. Kilimnik was also under investigation in Ukraine over espionage, but no charges were filed before he left ..

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