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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 27

      I'm more interested in journalists clearly labeling Trump's lies as strategic: "As Rudy has admitted, they plan to brand totally normal investigative techniques as spygate to achieve a political end," ...than to name individual lies as such on Twitter.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 27

      It's also be nice if reporters were more aware of the degree to which their repeating of spin makes them complicit, as with the claim Trump is only facing obstruction.

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        2. Bop_Hunter‏ @KevinSDouglas May 27
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Maybe I'm reading into your comments something which isn't there, but are you really suggesting that @maggieNYT is naive about Trump's tactics? Can't one just acknowledge that there is a legitimate difference of opinion? Haberman can't prove Trump's state of mind?

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 27
          Replying to @KevinSDouglas @maggieNYT

          WRT obstruction and "red lines"? Yes.

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        4. aderson francois  🇭🇹 14A‏ @abfrancois May 27
          Replying to @emptywheel @KevinSDouglas @maggieNYT

          Not sure I understand why in journalism state of mind for purposes of lying is seen as difficult to prove. Law does it everyday: has person x lied in the past? Yes. Has person x done it repeatedly? Then person x is presumed at best to have no credibility or at worst a liar.

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        5. Bop_Hunter‏ @KevinSDouglas May 27
          Replying to @abfrancois @emptywheel @maggieNYT

          Judges establish this after a lengthy adversarial process governed by rules (eg. guilt beyond a reasonable doubt). I think this is a clear eg. of a shibboleth -- like minds signaling that they're on the same side. And here I think it works against your purpose, actually, because

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        6. Bop_Hunter‏ @KevinSDouglas May 27
          Replying to @KevinSDouglas @abfrancois and

          this just feeds the pro-Trump narrative that the media makes all sorts of subjective leaps in their reporting. Appreciate how everyone is frustrated, and people go after the targets they can, but the distinction between "lie" and "falsehood" is trivial.

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        1. DM RESIST to @Resistbot‏ @ararubyan May 27
          Replying to @emptywheel

          If you're repeating Trump, you're helping him.

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        1. Julie Hotard‏ @upine May 27
          Replying to @emptywheel

          What Reactions to Michelle Wolf’s Comedy Routine at the WHCD Tell Us about Most of Our Media Being Complicit with Trump and the GOPhttps://medium.com/@upine/why-there-are-such-big-reactions-to-michelle-wolfs-comedy-routine-at-the-white-house-da4392fc89fa …

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        1. rhoneyman‏ @rhoneyman May 27
          Replying to @emptywheel

          That's really the essence of my frustration with MSM. My complaints are embedded at the margin, where tone and language of reporting are secondary to the actual reporting. I suspect, though, that journalists sometimes hear such criticism as outright condemnation.

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        1. Angela VOTE ON NOV 6TH‏ @AdavisWilliams May 27
          Replying to @emptywheel @mmfa

          “Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.” - Hitler

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        1. CodeTalker‏ @CodeTalker May 27
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Liars and their lies are central to all of Trump's activities and have been for many years, but only a few in the media have called lies what they are - LIES. Euphemisms for LIES only muddy the waters. What are they afraid of?

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        1. Jennifer Howard‏ @liveluv707 May 28
          Replying to @emptywheel

          I like CNN’s lie-o-Meyer. It shows the degree of the lie and goes from soft colour to dark red. There’s a bit of humour in it but it certainly adds a dimension to any piece on trump. Now let’s see if they use it. I love that they’re responding to our outrage! Good on us!

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        1. Rosemary Louden‏ @GrammaRosey May 28
          Replying to @emptywheel @LOLGOP

          Silence irrelevant Trump. Cover the actions of his cabinet and appointees. Give individual honest Congressional members reporting that will help people want to vote.

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        1. John Norcali‏ @JohnNorcali May 28
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Trump isn't even facing obstruction. Nothing has been obstructed, even a little bit by his words or actions. If anything, Trump's tweets help the investigations gain steam. You sound ridiculous @emptywheel

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        1. Interesante  🐦‏ @kmc02 May 27
          Replying to @emptywheel @mmfa

          "It's also be nice".....drunk?😳

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        1. #Cosmic_#Warrior‏ @Peta_de_Aztlan May 27
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Much of what we perceive & are exposed to online is 'spin' ~ subjective preferences and prejudices, different versions of the same memes or narratives, often slanted by psychic motives & subconscious agendas. ~ @Peta_de_Aztlan ++++pic.twitter.com/2yh0LnbFKR

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        1. bruce sims‏ @woodstockwasme May 27
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Damn straight

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        1. FLOrangeQueen‏ @FLOrangeQueen May 27
          Replying to @emptywheel @mmfa

          Are you joking? Where are they at ALL on Obama, Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Lynch, McCabe, Yates, Strozk and Page? Where are the tough questions? We now know Obama and Rice authorized spying on the Trump campaign!

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        1. The Don  ⭐️  ⭐️  ⭐️‏ @copie11 May 27
          Replying to @emptywheel @mmfa

          PRATTS.....

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        1. Chucky‏ @AlexandriaboyVA May 27
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Cue #MAGAHabermanNYT

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