#brightonruby @sarahmei and @nodunayo chatting about Ruby, community, career paths and lessons.pic.twitter.com/JitsvsrrlB
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Is there anything we can learn from the Javascript community? They think of open source as a team-centred operation rather than code-centred. (I agree, there's a big shift towards seeing FOSS as community, people, team that is doing sth and the code is 1 artifact being made.)
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What can we do to make it more team centric?
@sarahmei : Having events for newcomers, being beginner friendly. The way we move to a more team centric way of thinking is by bringing people from diverse backgrounds in, stepping back and letting them run the show.
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Companies try to hire lots of seniors. Fail. Try recruiting bags of juniors. But seniors not always ready to deal with such large numbers of juniors, to start much more mentoring and likely managing.
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Why Salesforce? Innovation came a lot from small cos. The pendulum seemed to swing back to big cos producing a lot of innovation. Sarah was interested in why. But then, at a big co, discovered that there are so many possible career paths within a big co.
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The further up you go the seniority ladder, the more similar the skills become and overlap: understanding and being able to socialise your ideas. Understanding people, motivations and bring a team together. Even if you have no formal authority, like an architect.
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A lot of startups don't really need many or even 1 full time senior dev. They do need mid level folks who can just get stuff done. Seniors have a bit of a dilemma if they want to stay working with small cos - consulting, writer/speaker/blogger...
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A lot easier for large cos to get started with machine learning because they are often sitting on enormous amounts of data. (This is... very true. Enormous luck and well wishes to the currently small ML folks.)
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Interesting initially uncertain aspect of new job for Sarah. How can I make my project align with the incentives of the overall org.
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If you had to write a new talk tomorrow based on a big idea, what would it be? For the first time
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UX assumed easier. But frontends are distributed systems, distributing the computation into people's browsers and it is *not* easy. Need to get rid of prestige ladder. Why are designers lower paid? What is it that drives us into these hierarchies? (Sounds like an amazing talk.)
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This was.. pretty challenging and I wish I did a better job of recording the topics. I really liked the session and would like to see more of these at events.
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