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Founding member of @AMZNforclimate. UX designer calling for climate leadership from Amazon. Fired for raising the alarm about climate and covid-19. She/her.

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    1. David Wallace-Wells‏ @dwallacewells 14 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @emahlee @KelseyTuoc @AlexSteffen

      I agree it’s a bit foolish to make particular predictions—so much about human response is uncertain. By “likely outcomes” I just mean the range of scenarios that lie between 2C (which I take to be roughly best-case) and 4C (where our current path takes us by 2100).

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    2. Alex Steffen‏Verified account @AlexSteffen 14 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @dwallacewells @emahlee @KelseyTuoc

      I agree that the consensus on 'currently likely' outcomes is something like 2.0º-4ºC. My point is that pundits often use past trendlines as evidence to predict we won't act, when we're in a discontinuity in which history is a poor guide, and climate politics is in wild flux.

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    3. Alex Steffen‏Verified account @AlexSteffen 14 Jun 2019
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      I just think it is extremely difficult to determine anything like accurate probabilities of climate futures—because it involves trying to unpack incredibly complicated, fast-changing systems, hindered by outdated legacy understandings of how the world works...

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    4. Jonathan Koomey‏ @jgkoomey 14 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @AlexSteffen @dwallacewells and

      It is IMPOSSIBLE to calculate accurate probabilities of climate futures. Humans have the ability to choose, and it is wrong to treat such systems the same way as physical systems (where the idea of probabilities of different outcomes has meaning).

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    5. Jonathan Koomey‏ @jgkoomey 14 Jun 2019
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      We can only make conditional statements like "if we continue on this current emissions path, here is the probability distribution of likely warming that will result". Much confusion has resulted from people trying to treat human systems like physical systems. They need to stop.

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    6. Jonathan Koomey‏ @jgkoomey 14 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @jgkoomey @AlexSteffen and

      Scher, Irene, and Jonathan G. Koomey. 2011. "Is Accurate Forecasting of Economic Systems Possible?" Climatic Change. vol. 104, no. 3-4. February. pp. 473-479. [http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10584-010-9945-z …]

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    7. Jonathan Koomey‏ @jgkoomey 14 Jun 2019
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      Also see Chapter 4 in Koomey, Jonathan G. 2012. Cold Cash, Cool Climate: Science-Based Advice for Ecological Entrepreneurs. Burlingame, CA: Analytics Press. [http://amzn.to/2eiZE2C  ] Download:http://www.mediafire.com/file/cktb73a83sftmpl/CCCC-Chapter4.pdf …

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    8. Emily Cunningham‏ @emahlee 14 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @daveregrets @jgkoomey and

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      But Dave, since we can't predict that 4ºC is "likely" saying so feeds into climate defeatism. Better to say "WITHOUT ACTION, X is likely. But WITH action we can avert this amount of warming." The threading got messed up on this thread but check out:https://twitter.com/emahlee/status/1139672633547476992 …

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      Replying to @AlexSteffen @dwallacewells @KelseyTuoc
      But as all of us know the difference between 2.0º-4ºC is... virtually incomprehensible in the amount of death and devastation it would cause. Seems incredibly unwise to lump everything between 2.0º-4ºC as "likely." Possible? Absolutely. We can't predict "likely" so why use it?
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      Emily Cunningham‏ @emahlee 14 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @daveregrets @jgkoomey and

      I think of "likely" the way I believe many people do, and the way Merriam-Webster defines it: "having a high probability of occurring or being true : very probable" Let's be careful in how we use it so it doesn't breed climate defeatism.

      4:52 PM - 14 Jun 2019
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        1. Kate Mackenzie‏Verified account @kmac 15 Jun 2019
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          Replying to @emahlee @daveregrets and

          Are we discussing likelihood of different temp outcomes, or range+likelihood of what those temp outcomes will mean? I think that’s an important distinction in some of this discussion.

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