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A lot of RPDM seems to me (again, may need to read more) very descriptive of what experts do, then gives you CTA to become more of an expert. But there's little mechanistic explanation that generalizes outside of "be expert in field"
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Your understanding is correct! And I think your frustration is reflective of Shanteau and Weiss's frustration in the paper. To be fair to them (and to you) they (and you!) seem to want an objective function with which to compare decision quality. And that's fair!
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But it's an open question if that's possible in real world decision making scenarios. NDM's approach doesn't get at this at all, and instead goes 'ok, we want to help people make better decisions in messy real world environments, how do we do that?'
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It's pragmatic to a fault, because the organisations that fund them (the military, industry, etc) want results (from decision tools that work), not theories that produce decision tools that don't work. My problem with Shanteau and Weiss's dismissal is that it's so ... harsh.
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Maybe my frustration comes from having read Heuer's "Psychology of Intelligence Analysis" as one of the first treatments of decision making I looked into. Same context as NDM (military), but very different approach.
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Oh so this is actually really interesting! I actually *do* think JDM research is very useful in intelligence analysis, geopolitical forecasting (e.g. Tetlock's work) and also in finance. These are wicked domains, and these tools do much better there!
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But in other perhaps more kind, more bounded domains, e.g. Marine fire squad commanders, firefighting, learning business, nuclear power plant management, getting better at relationships — I think it's good to look at NDM approaches instead.
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What trips me up and I'd be curious what you think: every time Jocko Willink talks about the training he ran for the Seals, he talks about sims (obviously), but also that he wanted leaders to mentally detach and generate options. Seems to completely fly into the face of this:
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This doesn't actually surprise me. One component of *using* RPD is that you break down 'intuition' to smaller components so you can manipulate it. You have a few approaches for training RPD: you can train more sims to get better cues and more accurate action scripts, and ...
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The point of the original Klein firefighter study is that, under pressure, human brains do not do option comparison. The nature of the human mind seems to be that it wants to do RPD, not rational choice comparison. But JDM assumes rational choice comparison in all its tools!
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But that's besides the point — I think the 'best practice' here is to do a combination of 'improve the results generated by RPD (system 1)' and also 'do a sanity check (system 2)', though of course under extremely high stress the latter isn't usually possible.
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