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I think one of the hardest things to do in business and in life is to see the present moment clearly. I mean, this is sort of hokey and weird. It's not tactical. It's not about the meta. But it's timeless and important. To me, Tom's interview was about that.
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Of course, I'm not saying that this was all Jim and Tom were talking about. I'm probably going to pick up different things from it when I relisten in a few months, or in a few years.
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But on my run yesterday, I thought that so much of the undercurrent in the conversation was two minds sharing with each other their life-long struggle to 'see the present moment clearly'. And that is why I think this podcast was ... transcendent. Highly recommended.
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(Of course, I may be completely imagining things because I was out of breath. 😅 In which case I'm sorry but you should still give it a listen!)
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