I just remembered the Taiping Rebellion and if you're not familiar go read this immediately. It's the craziest shit most people in the West have never heard of https://smile.amazon.com/Autumn-Heavenly-Kingdom-China-Taiping/dp/0307472213 …
yeah I was mulling that over was russia the first place a radical (contra bourgeois) revolution took place where they managed to hold control at length? seems like in the 19C and definitely earlier they just got stamped out