I used to do horrific animal experiments as an undergraduate honestly id probably feel ok about it if they shanked the scientists on the way out, its their righthttps://twitter.com/eugenegu/status/986047190341595137 …
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Invalidating hypothesis is useful tho
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it was totally understood at that point, vocal learning occurs in a few discrete structure that have no analogue in humans :/ but everyone pretended otherwise in their motivations and especially in their grant applications and there I was sawing off bird skulls to wire 'em up
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:( it’s bad but I think that at the end of the day in terms of quantified terribleness versus civilizational benefit animal testing is worth it, but in general the meat industry isn’t
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I might have believed that at some point but I'm pretty skeptical these days I'd prefer permitting researchers to pay willing humans for invasive studies And if a protocol is so unpleasant no one will fund it at a price that generates subjects, well that's the market
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Our mice were supposed to be genetically engineered to get cancer less often, but they got cancer at the normal rate and our efforts turned out to accomplish nothing. But at least we were trying to help them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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