I did mouse experiments. I don't feel bad for the mice really. They were dummies anyway.
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chronic invasive neuro experiments on songbirds here :/ the worst (?) part was that the research basically served no purpose other than getting publications for the lab turns out songbird vocal learning systems are not a useful model for human learning of any type
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Invalidating hypothesis is useful tho
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it was totally understood at that point, vocal learning occurs in a few discrete structure that have no analogue in humans :/ but everyone pretended otherwise in their motivations and especially in their grant applications and there I was sawing off bird skulls to wire 'em up
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:( it’s bad but I think that at the end of the day in terms of quantified terribleness versus civilizational benefit animal testing is worth it, but in general the meat industry isn’t
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I might have believed that at some point but I'm pretty skeptical these days I'd prefer permitting researchers to pay willing humans for invasive studies And if a protocol is so unpleasant no one will fund it at a price that generates subjects, well that's the market
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We could always replace the baboons with something else.
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