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Replying to @eigenrobot
at this point they've successfully controlled the discourse and should probably ALSO just stfu because now it's just boring. I do wonder what it takes to get this to be permissible to discuss though. Certainly we have to not be in the middle of a moral panic. What else?
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Replying to @danlistensto
I just don't see "discussion" happening in the US. Probably what happens is people continue to act in the private lives as if IQ were a useful predictor, and deny it publicly + through policy choices. Pure preference falsification. Maybe something with China or CRISPR-like tech
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Replying to @eigenrobot
so in other words, the moral panic has to end. the preference falsifications needed to avoid being slandered as "racist" have to stop. again, what causes the moral panic to end? at minimum Trump needs to be gone. what else?
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Replying to @danlistensto
I don't think it's just a panic though. The Bell Curve was published in 1994 and got the same response it would have today. My squishy guess/model is that a taboo on discussing persistent group differences is an implicit-but-central part of our post Civil Rights Era detente.
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Replying to @eigenrobot @danlistensto
Or, possibly part of a larger postwar consensus taboo against things like "race science" and eugenics policy. "Discussion" may be less a matter of waiting for a panic to die and more waiting for a generation with a particular set of memories and experiences to pass, siecle-style
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Replying to @eigenrobot @danlistensto
And I'm not honestly sure that discussion would make people better off net. Devil's advocate: intellectually dishonest diversity efforts might be some kind second- or third-best outcome, some kind of Cowen-esque creative ambiguity that lets us keep civil conflict at bay . . .
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Replying to @eigenrobot @danlistensto
Probably the most honest and sympathetic comment I ever saw on this topic was a fellow who basically said, "I'm afraid that if this were ever conclusively proven* whole groups of people would write themselves off so maybe we shouldn't do that."
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I can actually really get behind this thought, but the problem is the price of it is to stop whining about disparity of outcomes. You literally cannot have it both ways. That won't work.
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*It has been conclusively proven, just not the way your average bigot-racist thinks it has, which is part of the problem
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I don't disagree with any of this.
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