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    masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot Mar 12

    masquerobot Retweeted Autumnal Misha

    We need a meta-regulator Meta-regulatory red tape will ensure fewer object-regulations are produced Further, object level regulators will develop a sense of the pain their regulations cause the regulators Pro-regulation partisans may not consistently object to this schemehttps://twitter.com/drethelin/status/973286480008409088 …

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    Autumnal Misha @drethelin
    Abolish the FDA
    1:00 PM - 12 Mar 2018
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      2. Alex Godofsky‏ @AlexGodofsky Mar 12
        Replying to @eigenrobot

        we already have meta-regulatory red tape, the administrative procedures act, and it actually does substantially impede the creation of new regulation

        2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
      3. masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot Mar 12
        Replying to @AlexGodofsky

        love too invent things years too late dang

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      2. Will Muessig‏ @willmuessig Mar 12
        Replying to @eigenrobot

        this is basically OIRA but it has very little power

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      3. Will Muessig‏ @willmuessig Mar 12
        Replying to @willmuessig @eigenrobot

        funny thing is, Cass Sunstein wrote a whole book about why a supercharged OIRA would be amazing in just the way you describe then Obama actually made him Administrator and he got totally destroyed by the bureaucracy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ https://www.amazon.com/Risk-Reason-Safety-Law-Environment/dp/0521016258 …

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      4. masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot Mar 12
        Replying to @willmuessig

        Well Fuck

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      5. anomalyuk‏ @anomalyuk Mar 13
        Replying to @eigenrobot @willmuessig

        "Pro-regulation" and "anti-regulation" isn't the issue. Regulatory Capture is the issue: regulators compromise with those they interact with most.

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      6. Will Muessig‏ @willmuessig Mar 13
        Replying to @anomalyuk @eigenrobot

        Yeah Regulation isn't some homogeneous quantity you can just add up I for one think we need more regl'n of pollution & less regl'n of architecture Really it's about costs & benefits, but since most regs totally fail on this basis, talking about 'more/less' is an okay shorthand

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      1. Dan Garfield‏ @danlistensto Mar 12
        Replying to @eigenrobot

        arguably the judicial system is already a meta-regulator

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      2. ЬᏂ​au​ϮᏂ‏ @peroxycarbonate Mar 12
        Replying to @eigenrobot

        You could say that the meta-regulator for each level of a bureaucracy is the level of management above it...you're essentially proposing a parallel structure of political commissars.

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      3. ЬᏂ​au​ϮᏂ‏ @peroxycarbonate Mar 12
        Replying to @peroxycarbonate @eigenrobot

        It comes down to a question of "who's in charge" because when a decision has to be made an there's a conflict between parallel systems, one of them has to win cleanly or else you have a power struggle without a clear rule of law for citizens.

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      4. ЬᏂ​au​ϮᏂ‏ @peroxycarbonate Mar 12
        Replying to @peroxycarbonate @eigenrobot

        In the US, judges are usually in charge, eg when there's an argument over whether a company followed regulations, or even when the president wants to change immigration policy. In theory judges are supposed to just follow laws and constitutions, but . . . .

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      1. Nels‏ @nels_christian Mar 13
        Replying to @eigenrobot @KennethCullen14

        The Scandinavians use the term Ombudsman for someone who fights maladministration. I think we need something also direct, but not so polite sounding. Let's call the position the "Draculman" or a "Draconian" to set the right tone, with corresponding interrogation methods.

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      1. aristippus  🇺🇸 🚀 🍎‏ @red_liberation Mar 12
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        i think the only meta-reg you need is a sunset provision. recurring code review on civilational software

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      1. Simon Sarris‏ @simonsarris Mar 12
        Replying to @eigenrobot

        damn, when you put it that way

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      1.  💀Brian from Family Guy 💀‏ @1bnKalbatin Mar 12
        Replying to @eigenrobot

        Like the constitution but a bureaucracy

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      1. Chris Goldapp 🌐 🇪🇺‏ @ChrisGoldapp Mar 13
        Replying to @eigenrobot @DanielPryorr

        I think that's called a constitution.

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