Let's say, for example, that science proved that beating children was beneficial. One could still oppose it on moral grounds. "OK, it works, but it's still wrong!"
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Replying to @Hal_RTFLC
Ah! I like this point -very- much. Slavery -- another consent violation -- doesn't require science to prove its moral turpitude.
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Replying to @JillianKeenan
Exactly. There's evidence that slave societies do worse than free societies, economically. But I would rank that about 47th on the reasons to oppose slavery.
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Replying to @Hal_RTFLC @JillianKeenan
I think this is the correct answer there are cases where violating someone's consent might be the correct thing to do (vaccinations) but the burden should be on the person who wants to violate consent to show that the value of that violation is huge, and the practical cost small
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/4 For good reasons, we don't trust them to consent to to such things. Talking about "consent" in the context of kids, kinda isn't likely to convince anyone.
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True enough. If it were up to my son, the only things he'd consent to is chocolate for breakfast and watching PJ Masks until 2 am.
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I have a different understanding of consent. When you son eats something other than chocolate, for example, I suspect he's making a calculus based on the options available to him. Adults do the same thing. /1
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Replying to @JillianKeenan @Hal_RTFLC and
I didn't want to work at Olive Garden, but I did so begrudgingly because I wanted the money. If a kid chooses to eat, say, eggs rather than chocolate because it's the only option or because he doesn't want dad to get grumpy, that's not a consent violation. It's a choice. /end
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But rarely is it framed that way with very young children. They literally *can't* make those choices. You don't give a kids safety scissors and hope they don't cut their hair, you actively prevent them from cutting their hair.
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This is a veryyyyy specific example, but honestly, if the "safety scissors" are in fact safe, I'd probably say the kid should be able to cut his hair. It's still his body. (I know, I know, I'm radical.
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same don't apologize imo ^^
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