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    1. CHILLSian SCREAMan‏ @JillianKeenan Feb 15

      I have also recently, after years of agonizing -- I'm Jewish, trust me, I *agonized* -- come to the conclusion that infant genital cutting doesn't have the overwhelming scientific consensus necessary to win my support. /6

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    2. CHILLSian SCREAMan‏ @JillianKeenan Feb 15

      In both cases, people who aren't inclined to immediately agree with me say "show me the science." Which I respect! Coming back to science makes sense. Obviously. /7

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    3. CHILLSian SCREAMan‏ @JillianKeenan Feb 15

      But my problem is that science is tricky on these issues. I've seen studies that find benefits to child battery, and, obviously, studies that reflect the serious risks of child battery. /8

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    4. CHILLSian SCREAMan‏ @JillianKeenan Feb 15

      When I force myself to be honest, it's not really about science. It's about consent. But in these conversations, when skeptics say "show me the science," how do we -- how can I -- scientifically demonstrate the value of consent? /9

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    5. CHILLSian SCREAMan‏ @JillianKeenan Feb 15

      But I never, ever see "show me the science" on rape. When people say "rape is bad" -- which, obviously, is true -- I don't see skeptics say "show me the science." /10

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    6. CHILLSian SCREAMan‏ @JillianKeenan Feb 15

      So I guess my question is: how do we convince people that the value of consent is either 1) scientifically demonstrable or, failing that, 2) so evident and important that it supersedes science? /end

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    7. Howl 10000‏ @Hal_RTFLC Feb 15
      Replying to @JillianKeenan

      OK, I'll bite. Some things are beyond science's reach. Consent and its place in our culture is a moral value, not a scientific one.

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    8. Howl 10000‏ @Hal_RTFLC Feb 15
      Replying to @Hal_RTFLC @JillianKeenan

      Let's say, for example, that science proved that beating children was beneficial. One could still oppose it on moral grounds. "OK, it works, but it's still wrong!"

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    9. CHILLSian SCREAMan‏ @JillianKeenan Feb 15
      Replying to @Hal_RTFLC

      Ah! I like this point -very- much. Slavery -- another consent violation -- doesn't require science to prove its moral turpitude.

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    10. Howl 10000‏ @Hal_RTFLC Feb 15
      Replying to @JillianKeenan

      Exactly. There's evidence that slave societies do worse than free societies, economically. But I would rank that about 47th on the reasons to oppose slavery.

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      masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot Feb 15
      Replying to @Hal_RTFLC @JillianKeenan

      I think this is the correct answer there are cases where violating someone's consent might be the correct thing to do (vaccinations) but the burden should be on the person who wants to violate consent to show that the value of that violation is huge, and the practical cost small

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        2. Trevor Antczak‏ @TrevorAntczak Feb 15
          Replying to @eigenrobot @Hal_RTFLC @JillianKeenan

          /4 For good reasons, we don't trust them to consent to to such things. Talking about "consent" in the context of kids, kinda isn't likely to convince anyone.

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        3. CHILLSian SCREAMan‏ @JillianKeenan Feb 15
          Replying to @TrevorAntczak @eigenrobot @Hal_RTFLC

          Oh, trust me, I consider it a victory when I convince like one person a year 😂 I know I’m radical

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        2. Trevor Antczak‏ @TrevorAntczak Feb 15
          Replying to @eigenrobot @Hal_RTFLC @JillianKeenan

          /2 "Don't touch that", "Don't eat that", "Don't cut your hair with the safety scissors", "Don't *touch* mommy's scissors", "Clean your room", "eat your vegetables".

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        3. CHILLSian SCREAMan‏ @JillianKeenan Feb 15
          Replying to @TrevorAntczak @eigenrobot @Hal_RTFLC

          Yep! But my response to this doesn’t fit into a tweet. I’m half-heartedly working on a book that answers it, if I can stop being lazy 😂

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        1. Trevor Antczak‏ @TrevorAntczak Feb 15
          Replying to @eigenrobot @Hal_RTFLC @JillianKeenan

          /3 Children below 8 are pretty much suicide machines that have to be monitored constantly less they "consent" themselves to death. We dodn't even respect their ability to positively consent in many cases. It's a crime to have sex with a child, even if they consent.

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        1. Trevor Antczak‏ @TrevorAntczak Feb 15
          Replying to @eigenrobot @Hal_RTFLC @JillianKeenan

          /1 The more I think about this the more I think framing things in terms of consent is a mistake here. If you start talking about consent to the parents of young child you're just going to get strange looks. Their entire lives are about violating their child's consent.

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