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    masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot Jan 23
    Replying to @L0m3z @NoamJStein

    so as someone without strong feelings and also who is unwilling to ever read noah why screen by country of origin instead of just determining (i) desired immigration level, and then (ii) executing an annual or w/e second-price auction for the immigration rights?

    5:08 PM - 23 Jan 2018
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      2. masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot Jan 23
        Replying to @eigenrobot @L0m3z @NoamJStein

        could replace everything we currently have no more H1B stuff, firms would bid on rights for potential workers same for refugees if charities wanted to buy their cards rich + presumably more competent foreigners would be able to buy in what's the knock on this?

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      3. masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot Jan 23
        Replying to @eigenrobot @L0m3z @NoamJStein

        also note its 100% unambiguously color blind

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. dk‏ @dkpseudo Jan 23
        Replying to @eigenrobot @L0m3z @NoamJStein

        According to many influential people, including members of the US Supreme Court, policies that have disparate impact are not colorblind.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot Jan 23
        Replying to @dkpseudo @L0m3z @NoamJStein

        lol how do they feel about wars targeting specific countries full of people of a shared national background

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      2. Alex Godofsky‏ @AlexGodofsky Jan 23
        Replying to @eigenrobot @L0m3z @NoamJStein

        there isn't a good reason not to. your plan is more or less optimal, although I would probably just set a price rather than try to administer an auction.

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      3. masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot Jan 23
        Replying to @AlexGodofsky @L0m3z @NoamJStein

        don't you want to know every applicant's value of citizenship? :D

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      4. Alex Godofsky‏ @AlexGodofsky Jan 23
        Replying to @eigenrobot @L0m3z @NoamJStein

        the annual frequency is a problem. you can keep the auction if you auction it off to resellers who then speculate on the value.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot Jan 23
        Replying to @AlexGodofsky @L0m3z @NoamJStein

        yes, I'd want rights to be tradeable for sure

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      2. Noam‏ @NoamJStein Jan 23
        Replying to @eigenrobot @L0m3z

        I'm not certain we should screen immigrants by country per se. But one can't discuss the effects -- especially the long term effects -- of immigration without looking at *who* is coming. And country of origin, without further information, is often the best predictor

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      3. masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot Jan 23
        Replying to @NoamJStein @L0m3z

        so far youre convincing me my idea is a vast improvement :) why rely on a clunky indicator like country of origin when you can get people to reveal their value of US citizenship directly?

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      2. Tyto Alba‏ @euneaux Jan 23
        Replying to @eigenrobot @L0m3z @NoamJStein

        The process could also be made more democratic. Each community may admit a certain number who may live only in their jurisdiction. The community is responsible for any costs & consequences of their choices.

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      3. Tyto Alba‏ @euneaux Jan 23
        Replying to @euneaux @eigenrobot and

        The communities could use an the usual bueracracy, a jury of ordinary citizens or something more fun such as a casting show like "American Idol." If their citizens' boards have preferences for particular ethnicity, excellence or pathos, they will live with costs & consequences

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      4. masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot Jan 23
        Replying to @euneaux @L0m3z @NoamJStein

        this could be implemented most elegantly I think by local communities bidding on immigration permits and distributing in any way they saw fit

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Tyto Alba‏ @euneaux Jan 23
        Replying to @eigenrobot @L0m3z @NoamJStein

        http://FED.GOV  could wholesale permits to communities and then communities, allocate, distribute or sell them however they see fit? Interesting idea.... I'm still dying to see that casting show, where citizens get to call in and vote who becomes 🇺🇸 citizens.

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