I think there are two very distinct groups of libertarians, both using the same keywords of liberty, freedom, & limited government. 2/
I'm ok with "I don't care about other people's well-being also leave me alone" that's fine, and like trad liberty. Issue maybe . . .
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. . . more like "liberty, except where I want to use the state to destroy the outgroup"? Fits both of your cases, is actually extremely bad
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Agreed that "liberty for me, power of the state to destroy the outgroup" is a good way to describe the problem. However, not caring abt 1/2
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