responses are kind of a bummer because conditional on people existing I wish they were more like the repping antinatalists
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maybe im just gonna have to r-strategize even harder
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Depends on your antinatalism. For me, no. Destroying life and abstaining from creating it weigh differently.
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hmmmm what if you could push a button that would kill no one, but would sterilize everything
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I *think* that would be a net good, but with nowhere near enough confidence to actually push such a button.
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stochastic trolley problem!
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have you read blindsight yet
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(this but actually for the peter watts book)
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You will not regret.
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yeah, antinatalism was called voluntary extinction in the 90s
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all of the suffering-oriented arguments for antinatalism I'm imagining extend nicely to animals, 90s style seemd to have an ecological bent?
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yeah, I think it was a splinter from the environmental movement
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my position is that since rising welfare leads to lower birth rate for now we can focus on welfare and pop will handle itself
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that'll be true probably for the rest of my life so there's no point in me asking whether having children is good
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Hopefully that pattern holds up, also hopefully we dont hit a point where rising pop level --> decreasing welfare --> positive feedback loop
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I can see that feedback loop happening at a regional level (causing civil wars and death) but I can't see it happening globally
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soft antinatalism: i wish i had never existed and i want to die (this is me)
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hm. I sometimes want to be dead but never have had the wish I never existed part. unsure what this means do those come from the same place?
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imo having never existed is way better than dying
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probably depends on the death don't you think?
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no but i could see arguments for that
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