1. hmmm. so let's say bigotry is bad and causes lots of misery for no gain, it's some kind of social inefficiency. I basically buy this idea
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Replying to @eigenrobot
it's about output, not human interaction. Constitutional prohibition of gay marriage < iPhone (heh, at first typed iPhobe)
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Replying to @punsultant
Other thing is: Jobs' BAD behavior was likely rooted in his own ego/sense of power and need to display it (e.g. Trump)
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Replying to @punsultant
but a bigot's BAD behavior is rooted in others: could be sweet as candy to everyone at church before the lynch mob
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I'd also argue bigotry is not as clear because it's not defined. Assholeishness is easily recognizable but generally tame
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Replying to @punsultant
by "not defined" I mean what it means to be anti-gay (-women, -PsOC, -trans, etc) has shifted in definition multiple times.
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Replying to @punsultant
if it's not defined punishing people for it seems like utter madness
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Replying to @eigenrobot
so I think the line is hate vs being mean. If you're mean, it's bad but everyone is mean sometimes so we deal.
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Replying to @punsultant
but hate is different because it goes after things a person can't control and dehumanizes them and all like them
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Replying to @punsultant
think of it as aoe BAD vs whatever opposite of aoe BAD is... direct? Person to person? Take hate crimes: crime + message
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Replying to @eigenrobot
I have mixed feelings on hate crime as a category because personally I think of it as indistinguishable from terrorism
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Replying to @punsultant
yeah I get super-nervous about this broad class of laws. "I would not open windows into men's souls" and all that
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